Jones,

I'm not so sure that CO2 from the air on pre-conditioning, or exhaust gas
recycle on
an ICE doesn't form reduced carbon Nanoparticles/clusters:

CO2 + H2O ----> H+ + HCO3-   ---> 2 H+  + CO3 =

CO3 =  + 3 e-  ---> C  + 1.5 O2

Please leave the link URLs in a reply. Thanks.  :-)
>
> Of course - if the carbon fully oxidizes to CO2, then it has 
> limited usefulness, and is unimportant for this process, but as 
> you imply: As a colloid - and as a catalytic colloid (with 
> radicals attached) this could prove to be very important.
> 
5,677,075

http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm

"As a conclusion, carbon particles in carbon suspension obtained by
electrolytic oxidation are endowed with --COOH and --C--O-- groups on the
surfaces so as to become electrochemically modified carbon particles.
Taking into consideration the fact that the neutral aqueous solution turns
to be acidic (for example pH=2-3.5) aqueous solution as electrochemically
oxidation proceeds, the carbonyl group probably exists as --COOH. It is
also probable that --C--O-- exists as --C--OH, taking the process of the
above-described electrochemical reactions into consideration. These --COOH
and --C--OH groups play important roles for the dispersion of the carbon
particles and the activation of PbO.sup.2 cathodes in lead-acid batteries.
Although carbon particles are inherently hydrophobic, the surface of carbon
becomes hydrophilic by chemical modification, so that stable suspension can
be obtained."

Fred
> 
>
> [Original Message]
> From: Jones Beene 
>
> Fred,
>
> > When electrodes are soaked in the carbon suspension and applied 
> > with direct current voltage, the deposited carbon powder is 
> > adsorbed on a positive electrode. This electrolytically 
> > deposited carbon powder is referred to as electrolytic oxidized 
> > carbon powder in the present invention. The above treatment is 
> > referred to as treatment of electrolytic oxidation. "
>
> > They must be "Anions Anonymous".    :-)
>
>
> Interesting !
>
> It should be noted that various forms of stable carbon 
> nanoparticles can be present on many previously used surfaces ;-)
>
> ....and these could be involved in several different ways 
> (catalytically) without participating directly in a chemical 
> reaction, so as to become consummed in the process. This requires 
> stability.
>
> Of course - if the carbon fully oxidizes to CO2, then it has 
> limited usefulness, and is unimportant for this process, but as 
> you imply:  As a colloid - and as a catalytic colloid (with 
> radicals attached) this could prove to be very important.
>
> Jones
>
>
>
>



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