Kyle,

You can accuse me of not reading your previous post as thoroughly as you wish I 
had done. Perhaps there is some truth to that. 

So, you are a practical no-nonsense type of guy.  I'm drawn to the following 
no-nonsense comments:

> If you feel it will be productive to get in touch with
> these people any try to understand them, please feel
> free to do so, I would not restrict your actions in 
> this regard, that would be wrong of me. However, 
> while you are doing this, I will support those who
> feel the solution is to use force (see postscript) to
> solve the problem more elegantly and completely.
> Sorry, but I am completely uninterested in why they
> transformed their minds to be this way: they are,
> and that is it. There is no going back.

"...solve the problem more elegantly and completely" The ultimate solution? 
Hasn't that been tried before?

>                                  If you want
> to transform minds, then perhaps consider
> Americanizing them. Maybe that sounds 
> imperialist/colonialist/insert-anti-American-
> term-of-the-day-here. I do not care.

I doubt such efforts will create many converts.

>                                I do not want
> to understand the enemy. I want to destroy him.
> Maybe many do not agree with these statements, but
> I don't mince words, I will give you what I 
> think honestly and from the heart.

There is a perverse kind of honor in stabbing someone in the front, as compared 
to the back.

I gather you don't want to understand the enemy. You want to destroy them. 
Well, I would agree with you on one point, that such an attitude is, in your 
own words "...very simple: us or them." When any group, society, or nation 
manages to distill complicated issues, such as who rightfully owns a disputed 
patch of land, there's no stopping the kind of carnage that will unfold, 
especially when both sides can prop up their sense of outrage with some 
religious justification.

You mentioned previously that you happen to believe that "...we are right, and 
they are wrong, and that that is that." How brave is it to proclaim one's 
righteousness when it would appear that it's our side that is holding most of 
the ammo? He who is "right" is simply the individual who has more guns and 
ammo. If that's the case we had better wipe out every single "enemy" from the 
face of the planet, and while we're at it we'd better not concern ourselves 
with all the collateral damage, all the innocent men, women, and children 
caught in harms way. Cuz, if we fail to wipe out all the "enemy" (along with a 
few here and there we're not too sure about) from the face of the planet we'll 
just end up pissing them off even more.


> How do you plan to educate them better if
> they don't want it?

One can't educate those who don't want it. One hopes to better educate the 
majority - the rest of the population who are willing to better themselves, 
those who would prefer to live in more peaceful circumstances where they can go 
to work and raise their children. Hopefully, it will be the better educated 
majority who will be able to ameliorate the rest who don't wish to be educated.

Regarding your postscript, I would agree that the rules are likely to change 
when we can finally kick ourselves off our current addiction to oil. Let's hope 
that is sooner rather than later.

And, yes, I also agree that Walter Mathau. was a brilliant and very pragmatic 
character in Fail-Safe. A no-nonsense kind of guy. I can appreciate where 
you're coming from. It's obvious I don't personally agree with much of your 
sentiments. But I do understand it.

Nice sparring with you.

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.Zazzle.com/orionworks

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