In reply to William Beaty's message of Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:55:55 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] >On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: > >> As has been pointed out before on this forum, an electric >> generator driven by an electric motor where the ensemble is OU is >> easy to demonstrate as such. Just let it power itself and >> self-run. Absent any hidden wires, this is about as convincing a >> demonstration as is possible. > >There is some speculation that the "Cappy" Hubbard device before 1920, >where he ran a motorized rowboat on Puget Sound for immensely long time... >was actually a Tesla power transmission setup, with a large induction loop >hidden on shore.
Given that it was in a boat, and thus had an excellent "ground" connection, that's entirely possible. >Hubbard claimed to have discovered a massive energy >source, a high frequency radioactive battery. His device could have sat >there putting out kilowatts for years if he wanted. At the time, nobody >would have looked for VLF power transmission. Pure scam, if true. What >would the modern equivalent entail? All you need is an energy- >transmission scheme which is hard to detect. (I posted one on my "hoax" >page, where an unsuspected narrow beam of electric wind is intercepted by >a metal plate to become a power supply at high voltage and low current.) This is true of course, however schemes where power is transmitted from a "local" source are fairly easy to detect by simply moving the ensemble around. If location and orientation make some difference, then there is a good chance that some sort of power transmission is involved. BTW moving them around has the added advantage that it soon reveals the presence or absence of hidden wiring. Then again, of course, some novel form of power transmission may have value in its own right, particularly if it involves transmission of power from a source that is inexhaustible/"free". A couple of potential sources to consider:- 1) The solar wind. 2) Oscillating plasma currents in the Sun. 3) Oscillations in the magnetic field surrounding the black hole at the galactic center, or various "magnetars". 4) Some interaction with the Earth's magnetic field which allows the device to derive energy from the rotation of the planet. All of the these implicitly require the transmission of power by currently unrecognized means via magnetic fields or sub-space. Given that the device in question relies on magnets, a magnetic field intermediary would seem at least possible (once again, if not a hoax). BTW there is also Joseph Newman's notion that such motors rely on the slow conversion of their own mass into energy. This notion may require as yet non-existent knowledge, but doesn't actually defy any of the "laws" of physics (i.e. all the conservation laws are obeyed). So perhaps magnets really do provide a means of achieving this, particularly if the magnets used contain long lived natural radioisotopes, such as Nd144 or Sm147-148. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition provides the motivation, Cooperation provides the means.
