At this time they make no claim to a self-running device, but they clearly believe that will follow in the future. Their only claim at the moment is OU.

Mark

From: Harry Veeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Steorm
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 23:49:26 -0500

Depending how much the ensemble leaks energy, it
may not be self-powering even if OU is present.

Harry

Robin van Spaandonk wrote:

> In reply to  Mark Goldes's message of Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:22:50
> -0700:
> Hi,
> [snip]
>
> As has been pointed out before on this forum, an electric
> generator driven by an electric motor where the ensemble is OU is
> easy to demonstrate as such. Just let it power itself and
> self-run. Absent any hidden wires, this is about as convincing a
> demonstration as is possible.
>
>> Selected by them, of course. They stated they want the most cynical and >> skeptical. Of more than 3,500 volunteers to date, McCarthy has said at
>> least 50 seem to be well qualified experimental physicists.
>>
>> When ABC News published critical comments by Dr. Michio Kaku, McCarthy
>> invited him to participate. To my knowledge he has not yet indicates if
>> he will.
>>
>> Time will tell the tale. My guess is they will prove to be on the level.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: "Michel Jullian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]: Steorm
>>> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 23:51:25 +0200
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mark Goldes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 11:14 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [Vo]: Steorm
>>> ...
>>>> I have seen nothing so far to indicate they are scammers.  They have
>>> said
>>>> they will accept no further investment until the 12 selected scientists
>>> have
>>>> reported their findings.
>>>
>>> 12 selected scientists, fine, but selected by whom?
>>>
>>> Michel
>>>



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