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No, Naudin is not hoaxing - closer to needing a
lesson in measuring P-in.
BTW - when in the past has Naudin been proven
correct, *with independent replication,* on any OU experiment ? I think it would
be wise to question every conclusion he has made. Most are lacking.
Read George Holtz's post on the 20x power
measurement error made by Naudin. It is on the MAHG forum.
Don't get me wrong - I admire the effort put in by
Naudin and his skill as a builder of a wide assortment of unfinished and
*promising* experiments - but his refusal to admit obvious errors and to correct
the errors online - as with the MEG and MAHG is
irresponsible.
And then the biggest objection is that he leaves
everything in a cliff-hanging state - why can't he push forward
and finish what he has started if there is a hint of OU - as with Mizuno?
His M.O over at least a dozen experiments is
to show a provocative glimpse of what could be OU, with a well constructed
experiment BUT then to abruptly and without explanation - move onto the
next glimpse. Peep show science !
... not there is anything wrong with drama... or
peep shows for that matter <g>
Jones
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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:01
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Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: MAHG at TeslaTech
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Unless your accusing Naudin of hoaxing it what do you mean no
proof!?!
20+ COP, that's pretty straight forward!
And personally
I wouldn't question Naudin, he has proven himself numerous times over many
years.
That doesn't mean the Hydrogen recombination theory is correct,
maybe it is a way to tap vacuum energy (strikes me Aspden might agree having
read some of his stuff the other day) and maybe it isn't but how do you know
that recombination of hydrogen can't lead to tapping vacuum energy under the
right conditions?
Build it and prove him wrong.
Actually the
only thing puzzling me is why more than a year after a successful reproducible
20+ COP FE machine which is relatively straight forward to replicate there is
no obvious sign of them showing up for sale anytime soon, Ok it creates heat
not electricity and even if we assume that turning heat into electricity is
bothersome enough to discourage it as the primary energy source for homes why
not a really efficient heater?
Tempted to build one myself if someone
can suggest an efficient low cost way to turn heat into electricity, anyone
know where to get Sterling engines that can do about 1kw? Steam
Turbine?
On 9/1/06, Jones
Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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John Berry wrote:
> Bill Lyne believes much the same
[basic misunderstanding of hydrogen chemistry -in
the explanation]
A google search for Thorsten Ludwig, President of
the German Association for Space Energy (GASE), indicates that he
resides in Berlin, Germany and is a spokesperson for alternative energy
innovations in Europe.
Recently completing a PhD, his doctoral
thesis was on the Casimir Effect and zero point energy. He has
participated in the Casimir Force colloquia overseas and is
apparently an inspiring speaker with some credentials...
...
making his inane repetition at this conference - of obvious and glaring
fundamental mistakes in the original Naudin/Moller writeup - all the
more mysterious...
This does not necessarily mean that they
haven't found excess energy [yet there is still little real
proof for that] - it only means there is more high level ignorance in
the field than there should be. One suspects another "mail order PhD" -
ala Bearden.
Repetition of a flawed experiment proves more
about the repeater than the original
premise.
Jones
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