Mike Carrell wrote:
 >
 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomas malloy" 
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 > To: <[email protected]>
 > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:43 AM
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 >>
 >> The would, if they could. But I don't think that
the second law is any
 >> danger from any dingus. Living systems OTOH, can
reverse it, and there
 >> are reports that they do emit photons, perhaps
someone knows more
 >> about this.
 >
 > Living systems do not reverse the second law, which
strictly understood
 > refers to ***closed systems***. Living systems are
not closed


Quote, "There are almost as many formulations of the
second law as there 
have been discussions of it."
--Philosopher / Physicist P.W. Bridgman, (1941)

The reason there are so many interpretations is
because it's one of the 
most erroneous laws of physics.  It's kind of
hilarious how some 
physicists continually append more rules to the 2nd
law in attempts to 
duck tape and repair. Visually the 2nd law is not the
size of the empire 
state building held together by duck tape. In this
instance they find 
the need to falsely state living systems are not a
close system.  Why? 
Because living systems break the 2nd law. :-)   Humans
can be isolated. 
  Fact is Humans have an appreciable free will, which
can violate the 
2nd law.

Lets not waste any more time on the 2nd fictitious law
of 
thermodynamics. :-)


Regards,
Paul Lowrance

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