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From: "Harry Veeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Lifter electrode geometries

>> In Sigmond's derivation d is the z- (usually vertical) distance traveled by
>> the single ion under study. Since the highest density of ions takes the
>> shortest route, for most (but not all) lifter designs one can make the
>> approximation of the same z-distance d (the gap length) for all ions, hence
>> the I*d/mu thrust formula obtained by summing all the q*d/mu momentums
>> contributed by all the ions crossing the gap in one second. In those lifters
>> the exact shape of the collector doesn't matter, whether wing shaped or round
>> tube or plane mesh.
> 
> If the thrust can be increased by increasing the gap distance, how large can
> the gap be made?

As large as you wish, but if you increase the gap you must also e.g. increase 
the voltage and the wire-to-wire spacing, the parameters are interdependent so 
you must calculate them in the right order (cf the multiwire-plane design 
guide).

>> But there are exceptions, e.g. in my trough shaped mesh design as I explained
>> the ions fan out, so they travel very different z-distances, so the 
>> X-to-plane
>> I*d/mu formula doesn't apply. If you do the (simple) maths you find:
>> 
>> Thrust(line to half cylinder) = 2/pi * I*d/mu
> 
> It doesn't depend on the width of the trough?

It does, via the d parameter (the trough width is 2*d, it's a half cylinder 
with the wire on its axis)

Michel

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