On 3/8/07, Stephen A. Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So how about you try working through the mathematics of the contradictions you think you've found in relativity, and post the results here? I mean, work them through using the Lorentz transforms. I'll be happy to argue them with you, if you'll actually work through the math rather than just blowing off the calculations and calling it all "bunk".
Here's the thing though. I'm not attacking the equations as self contradictory, I'm bypassing all of that by pointing out that there is no way for them to be correct because it is well known that SR functions based on the idea that you can not assess the rate of time in another frame without distortion. The reason that instantaneous communication is said to break down SR is not that it is instantaneous but that it presupposes no distortion by effects such as the Doppler effect. The methods I have given allow observers in 2 different frames to observe each others rate of time and agree fully. This can be achieved by observing travel towards and away and working out the Doppler effect as I have laid out*, or by communication during a flyby, if the flyby is incredibly distant then even a flyby at .99c could last a while, if very close it may be fleeting but could pretty much fit the bill for being practically instantaneous too. The 3 different ways are either: 1:Use a computer to work out the level of Doppler distortion,2: Communicate to the other frame it's apparent time rate as you observe it and visa versa, if both is you get the same score then there is no time dilation only Doppler effects. 3: And finally have 2 positions A & B in the same reference frame measure the apparent rate of time of a vehicle moving from one to the other, the Doppler effect is positive for A and negative for B so they can be added together to remove the Doppler component. Basically any way you slice it, there is no way to stop an accurate observation of the time rate another frame is experiencing which means that if any time dilation is present it is observable and agreed on by both parties, it is absolute.
