On Jun 2, 2007, at 4:55 PM, William Beaty wrote:

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:

About to go on some travels, will get some incense while I am out,
preferably something that smells nice and not like a house of ill repute. :)

Y'know, I think incense smoke might give misleading results.  Here's a
weird phenomenon:


Snip Bill's ion filament stuff I've always found fascinating.


What happens if we place some high-freq deflection electrodes near the
path of the electric wind in a lifter? Perhaps if we can wiggle the fast ion trajectories rapidly back and forth, any filament-shaped flows will be disrupted, and the electric wind will become a slower, large-volume flow.
Turn on the high-freq "turbulence" electrodes, and suddenly the thrust
increases?  This is just one more idea I've never tried testing.


It seems to me the ion stream momentum *eventually* has to be converted into broad air momentum - provided the opposed electrode is far enough away.

One thought - a ring electrode opposed to the pointed electrode might be adjusted so as to send the ion beam through the ring, and thus "defocusing" it on the other side. If too close I assume it would just "short out" the ion stream, but maybe some specific proportions would work.

Another thought - the binding of the stream may in part be magnetic. An orthogonal or even oblique magnetic field might break up the stream in any case, by inducing cycloid motions.

Regards,

Horace Heffner

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