Horace,

This is a nonsensical model of the process and certainly *not* one implied by me.

Well - playing devil's advocate once again, if tritium were coming off in the vacuum exhaust in well-equipped labs, it would set off a warning - but maybe they did not have any such precaution... nevertheless ... in trying to get a better protocol pinned-down, in case anyone (such as a Mills proponent) might wish to whittle down the open possibilities, it would seem that tritium has such a unique signature that it would not be hard to find it, especially with a dedicated tritium detector, unless it is ALL at the much lower energy level (and how could that be?) .... That is, if one looks in the right place like the vacuum exhaust, or turning the pump off, tritium detectors should spot it like a sore thumb.... and also - another factor weighing against tritium is that one can doubt that helium would have much of an effect on tritium release, in the situation where there was only helium, but less fogging.

You would agree that if a vacuum is drawn on a tight seal, then pump turned off for the multi-hour exposure, and there is still only minimal fogging - then the exposure is not due to the release of tritium ?

If tritium can be eliminated, then beta decay of the neutron is still an open possibility - but a vacuum would not have eliminated that before (in the original) - and the crux of this puzzle is that the effect goes away with a either a vacuum or with an unreactive gas (He, Ar)... and also - the other factor weighing against tritium is that helium should not have much of an effect.

If I am understanding this, with a reactive gas present - O2 or N2 there is an fairly large signal and it is not due to photons. If tritium, photons and neutron decay are eliminated and 300 volt electrons are the culprit, then my original take on this was to look for a species that would displace an inner electron of O2 or N2. Auger electron spectroscopy is where you usually see electrons of this energy.

The hydrino-hydride, as a candidate - which in an ion having a bound electron of the exact energy to be displaced might be able to do this. At least that is one possibility which has not been ruled out. Look on Robin's site:

http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/New-hydrogen.html

...for the shrinkage necessary (looks like 1/9 to 1/10) which is necessary to get almost exactly to this 300 volt level if both of the electrons in the hydride pair to the same level - which Mills may not believe happens, but others do.

I do not buy the possibility which Robin mentioned of further shrinkage, as that involves a photon, nor the possibility of a nuclear reaction - which is eliminated by the low energy of the electron and the lack of gammas.

Where else in physics does one normally find electrons in this range, other than Auger spectroscopy ? If anyone replicates this, they should borrow such a device and pin down the exact energy, perhaps.

Jones

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