On Jun 25, 2007, at 3:09 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:

OK Bill you have convinced me that water droplets emitted at low fields might not Coulomb-explode (low field = low charge on each droplet, e.g. a single elementary charge) and therefore might form a thin linear chain along the line of maximum field, so that this phenomenon could explain your air threads observations in the wet emitters cases. But as I recall you also managed to obtain those air threads using dry emitters such as the edge of a torn piece of paper, so the low current corona explanation may be the correct one in those cases.

Regarding the turn-on field for corona which you suggest might be too high for corona to be involved in the airthread phenomenon, note that domestic corona ion generators also operate with only a few kV over a few tens of cm (distance to the nearest wall, floor or ceiling which acts as the collecting plate), so "dry" corona does turn on at very low fields and very low currents, although maybe not in the same mode as when operated at higher fields.

Another thing occurs to me, maybe the reason why you couldn't get thin beams with needles is that you didn't drive them through a high series resistance, which for proper comparison would have to be of the order of the resistance of your "insulating" emitters such as paper fibers (hundreds of megohms?). Maybe the high resistance could have the effect of producing only short bursts of ions by ohmic voltage drop, participating in the low current and therefore the low sideways expansion.

It could also be that the fibers, being very thin, achieved a better sideways (radial) field gradient and thus made better water collectors, and also sustained a much better bond with the water vapor and CO2 from the atmosphere and thus anchored the top of a water filament. Experiment should sort this out. The problem is it is difficult to justify the time and expense of the experiment when there are so many others of potentially world changing significance.

Say, the server is not responding for:

http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/airexp.html

Regards,

Horace Heffner




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