Terry, you have shown just enough interest so let's give this a go eh? (ie. Any at all)
The crux of this is that it is possible to suck in fields by propper manipulation of space-time. (which is fluid) I can't say for sure if this relates to radio but it likely does, but now I'm going to have to disagree with our kind list owner. According to Mr. Beaty the reason energy sucking antennas work is not because the field of the transmitter is actually sucked into the receiving element, but because the field of the receiving element enhances the voltage induced. I have a problem with this however, it doesn't IMO make any sense. The fact that the receiving element might now be created a sizable net field does not impact on the effect of the transmitters field on the particles (electrons) in the receiver since as I believe is generally accepted electric and magnetic fields superimpose and it is not the effect of field against field but rather of (transmitter) field against matter. (whether or not the antenna is creating a net field should not matter) In other words having a huge measurable field does not make the antenna as large as the field because the transmitted field is according to Bill still at the same density at the receiver regardless and as force is placed on the particles and not the fields as fields do not (mostly) interact with each other* (and besides the fields are present and have the same reach and reality regardless of if they net to zero or not) then the answer IMO is that the field is literally sucked in and that this can be O/U if carried out in the near field. *For instance it was on this list where I first was told that the reason a transformer has induction around it despite the flux being seemingly trapped inside the core is because it isn't but it sum's to zero everywhere else with the obvious exception of the induction adds, same as Hooper-Moonstein experiment. Also if the mere presence of a field means that the receiver is more 'sensitized' due to it's larger field then it need not be at any frequency. I think the reasoning according to Bill though is simply that otherwise it violates the CoE so it must be that for whatever reason producing the counter wave enhances the receivers response to the field without actually changing the field or the receivers exposure to it. Nevertheless let's just assume that Bill is right about that, now I am going to investigate evidence for fields being literally projected or sucked. (As implied above I am going to be using a fluid aether model, this is one I was not attracted to but which kept on making more and more sense as I tried to look for clues and correlations in the designs of various anomalous devices) 1: This one is pulled from the Weird Science experiments page, it is worth noting that according to some Tesla designed his coil experiments to pump the aether and not electrons. (I am reasonably sure he did but I have not read him say so himself) "I was building a electromagnet and It was starting to look good. I had put a switch on it to divert the power at my will. Also, i had added a minutere tesla coil to the design for optimal power. when i hooked it up to a 9 volt battery and i held up the screwdriver which i had wrapped the wire around to magnatise. i was able to take my other hand and metal objects would attract to it as if my hand were a magnet. Anonymous <http:///> USA - Monday, January 25, 1999 at 03:55:25 (PST) Here we have Tesla Coils which show signs of outputting a current not explained fully by charge flow according to many drag a static magnetic field through a human body and go to wherever the electro-aetheric (cold current) current was flowing. 2: Boyd Bushman made a device consisting of various magnets with norths pointing in except on one side which this strong north pole beam projected from, this beam device had many odd effects and among them was the fact that the magnetic field shot out of it to 20 feet or so. (also increased HV electrical discharge though air distance dramatically, fell slowly etc...) This is in agreement with other things which suggest that aetheric energy (Chi, Orgone) shoots out of the North pole. <BTW orgone is the same thing as ZPE/F, Torsion fields etc, all just eddies and various agitations of the aether (There is evidence for this stuff, ignoring it because it doesn't sound like your idea of science doesn't make it right) 3. Earl Ammann made a device that put out energy thanks to being within 10 miles of a small transformer device in his basement. http://www.rexresearch.com/feg/feg1.htm#amman 4. Ground Radio not only works where seemingly it should not, it works better than it has any right to. There are various articles on the Borderlands (BSRF) website about ground radio experiments where stations would come in stronger and stronger as listened to, but a momentary disconnection of the radio from the ground antenna and that signal would be weak only to be brought back slowly. It sounds more than a little like aether streams (Telluric Currents) carrying radio waves are established and grown. No conventional explanation seems even slightly likely. 5. Sid Hurwich, a device that sent a beam that stopped metal from moving. He said it worked from normal electrical principles, but that's not really true clearly. However it is true if you had a device that could beam a magnetic field without loss while simultaneously making the metal at a distance into a room temperature superconductor. (incidentally room temperature superconductivity from application of electrical signal to normal metal has already been claimed) http://www.rexresearch.com/hurwich/hurwich.htm 6. Osamu, a patent where 2 magnets sandwich a diamagnetic material with a coil wound over) produces stronger reception of signal, much. (lots of correlations with joining of diamagnetic materials with magnetic ones, was even used in Egypt and is said to create a noticeable vital current) BTW compare Osamu with Coler, both have magnets sandwiching diamagnetic materials with coils wound over top. 7. Stiffler's loopstick puts out a uniform field regardless of distance provided it is not too far away. 8. Charged shapes pickup signals that must come from somewhere: http://www.rexresearch.com/grandics/grandics.htm 9. Antenna that pulls much power from distant fields http://www.rexresearch.com/feg/feg2.htm#xtec note: The CHTA (torus caduceus) had success at pulling in distant fields also. (Caduceus coils are well established as having weird effects) 10. It is well established twins feel a link. In a Russian experiment a submarine took baby rabbits down some distance while monitoring the various vital signs of the mother Rabbit on land, probably Galvanic Skin Response. One by one the baby rabbits were killed and the mothers vital signs reacted. While this is different it does indicate that an 'express' connection can exist between things similarly tuned and that various fields can ride such channels. 11. The following Free Energy device's make sense if fields can be pulled in or projected because the aether flows from the primary to the secondary increasing induction one way but not the other (I don't have any idea of the density or speed of the aether flow nor if the field is being dragged or copied or mimicked) resulting in a high coupling in one direction and low coupling in the other, all of these devices have suitably loose coupling although as above some pull in from the environment rather than taking the form of an overunity transformer: Carter Transformer Hubbard Transformer Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter Don Smith's devices Hans Coler Markovitch Stubberfield Prentice Kipper Hendershot Moray And various motor generator types. (too many too similar to cover) And more. (also the most mysteriously powerful crystal radio designs fit perfectly) All of these devices have the following: A short circuit (seemingly it is the aether flow that needs the short circuit not electricity, have a list of 30 devices and all have this but not all have any electrical current expected in the short circuit, analysis or normal tech shows no shorts) Floating pickup coil, maybe it's chance but the receiver is NEVER grounded while the primary side often is. The device has at least one thing I have established as making the aether flow, agitating the aether or attracting natural sources of agitated aether. (Orgone) Many can ONLY be explained by sucking in fields (asymmetric coupling) and no other thing. Hopefully you have read over this with an open mind and asked what is most probable rather than 'Can I possibly disregard this', the latter being an incorrect point of view especially if you believe in any way the well demonstrated Free Energy devices mentioned because if you believe such is possible then the question that should come to you is 'how' not 'how can I disregard this'. These odds of such 'coincidences' do not seem very good. If you want to solve these problems you need to be quiet and see the correlations and clues (there is no way that such rare phenomena that's don't show up with the most sensitive equipment normally could have so many different ways to manifest, there MUST be correlations and this is the only one), see what the devices and nature is saying rather than projecting ideas on to them. I have for (well) over a decade studied these devices (almost full time) and while I had great dislike for anything about the aether (too messy mysterious new agey sounding) I know correlations must exist but could not find correlations that worked well at all until I couldn't help but see correlations I didn't want to see which worked in every device and made sense of all the clues. Being that this makes sense of most all FE/AG devices (including the fact that these impossible effects are seen in the same devices along with other anomalies, with Pantones GEET having 100+ anomalies, even Free Energy and Antigravity show up in the same often rather simple device) while other models don't, and since this model finds little correlation with devices that fail to do anything unusual (conventional tech) the odds seem good to say the least. Did I waste my time typing this? (if you read this in interest please say so) Oh I forgot one, Glass tetrahedrons (or corners of box shaped ORAC <not due to permanent magnetization of sheet metal, changed with a change of orientation) and other shapes creating magnetic poles, aether flow (or aetheric energy) as mentioned above flows out of north poles (into south) and this seems true of the earth also (It also agrees with biological magnetic experiments), there is an aether flow along the earths magnetic field (Hendershot and Earl Amman and at least 2 others claimed to use it not to mention Pyramids energetic effects only occur when aligned with it) and it can be distorted and directed up by a tetrahedral shape (I think I know why). Also Dan A. Davidson in his book 'Shape power' found the same with just 2 chopsticks in a pingpong/styrofoam? ball with a sensitive magnetometer. (and agrees with my idea why tetrahedron and not pyramid) The effect being basically the result of diverting and directing (and compressing?) aether (aethero-magnetic) flows upwards which distorts the magnetic field. On 10/27/07, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 10/26/07, John Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Actually I have studied many different (and yet I believe similar) Free > > Energy devices and not a single one has a ground, indeed some go to > lengths > > not to have a ground. > > Newman would certainly agree. > > Terry > >

