Ron,

You can't give up now.
This is part of the climb.

Harry

On 25/10/2007 11:55 AM, EnergyLab wrote:

> It gets more interesting by the day, does it not?
> 
> So lets see, If I place a picture of the readings on my TriField meter and
> my Ham RF field strength meter what a large can of worms that will open up.
> 
> May I guess?
> 
> You have it positioned in a dead spot of the lab, doe a test over every
> square foot.
> You do not have the gain of the meter turned high enough.
> Maybe your meter does not respond to the frequency doing it.
> 
> In truth the reason I am no longer participation on the thread is it is in
> my view pointless.
> 
> I listed the conditions of the lab location to be open an honest. But it
> appears that was a huge mistake. Have we digressed to dishonest and partial
> disclosure 'Is In' and 'Honesty' is out.
> 
> I wish to thank Jones for at least being objective, but are some of you
> running in loops?
> 
> I do not belong here (on this group) and maybe there is no other either, but
> I think in the interest of experiment it is worthwhile going down that road.
> 
> Thank you all....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:36 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity
> 
> 
> On 25/10/2007 7:08 AM, Horace Heffner wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Oct 24, 2007, at 10:54 PM, John Winterflood wrote:
>> 
>>> The important thing about a Faraday cage is that inside it you
>>> cannot tell anything about electric fields or electric potentials
>>> that exist outside.  You can't tell (in theory at least) whether
>>> the cage you are in is grounded, or sitting at 100kV, or on the top
>>> of a Tesla coil and being oscillated plus and minus to many megavolts.
>>> 
>>> In this Ron's case however there is an "ground" wire entering the
>>> cage and who knows what potential difference exists between the
>>> cage and the wire entering it until he measures it.  This is the
>>> important thing - it doesn't matter whether either or neither are
>>> grounded - it just matters what is the AC and DC difference in
>>> potential between the wire entering and a well constructed cage.
>> 
>> Good point.  Another option along the same lines might be to simply
>> strip a section of the ground wire and connect the ground wire to the
>> faraday cage at the entry point using an alligator clip.  It the
>> lights go out then the power is from an external source.
> 
> 
> If the lights go out when the faraday cage is internally grounded it may
> just mean the apparatus requires an external ground but it would not prove
> the power source is RF.
> 
> To know for sure, you would have to see how the apparatus behaves far
> from significant RF sources when the faraday cage is externally grounded...
> or have the owners of the RF towers turn them off. ;-)
> 
> 
> Harry
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