Michel Jullian wrote:
Mmmm... it seems to me that even without the help of a fifth force you would expect the electrons to
carry whatever they are attached to up, by simple coulombic force Fc=q*E (E = -grad V goes from
positive to negative i.e. down, and q is negative, so Fc goes up)
I did not mean to imply that the situation is "either/or".
In fact there are likely to be a number of contributory mechanisms at
work. However, charge (simple Coulombic repulsive force)itself is
probably not as important as other mechanisms IMHO.
If it were important, then clouds could not form easily from charged
water vapor, due to repulsive forces. That 'cloud problem' might be also
true of electron buoyancy, in the context of a Mills' antigravity effect.
However, as an alternate view of Mills buoyant electron, we can cast
that into a more complex picture, as operating in the Dirac epo field;
which would envision the real negative charge as completely shielded by
the near-field effects of virtual Ps, yet still having AG buoyancy, but
being "slowed".
OrionWorks wrote:
> In any case, one would think Mill's recent claim would have stirred up
> sufficient interest within the scientific community to garner at least
> -some- effort to independently check out these claims, but what do I
> know. :-(
I think that yes - in time, it will definitely stimulate independent
experiments, probably more than anyone suspects now -- but lest we not
forget - Mills is privately funded; and despite being comparatively
well-off compared to those in LENR - in Mills' case there is no mystery
whatsoever ... as to why he would NOT initially build an elaborate
device, as Pete Zimmerman suggested.
PZ comes from a top level community and clique of pampered and
well-funded physicists (who always complain that they too are
underfunded by a few billion here and there) and is speaking from that
background when he weighs-in on this; when in fact he (PZ) likely has no
remote understanding of what is involved to pull off such a meaningful
experiment, under severe cost constraints.
Both Mills and those in LENR are right to consider remarks such as these
as arrogantly belittling at such an early stage, given the ingrained
lack of government or large-lab support.... even if the Fifth Force is
not replicated as soon as it should be. I suspect that it will be
confirmed, but what do I know. ;-)
Jones
