--- Mike Carrell wrote:

> And what is the 'authority' for the 'priority' of
autonomous weapons? Or does the author mean booby
traps and land mines?


... well, there's the rub, and his point may well be
that this endeavor is far too unsupervised now (no
taxpayer oversight)... and will likely become a very
"slippery slope" if there is any modicum of success. 

Perhaps the public should think about intervening
before it is too late. We will have that opportunity
in November. It is pretty clear that McCain represents
"stay the course" or even an expanded Military, and
that the other party will massively cut the defense
budget (even if they say otherwise now). Both of these
courses are risky, but which is less-risky? 

Already we cannot muster enough human troops for Iraq
and if the advance robotics are even partially
successful there, and can ease the manpower problems,
then the Pentagon's increased 'push' to make them even
more capable (intelligent), and numerous, is fraught
with unknown risks.

.... because even when many layers of precautions are
taken, and to the degree that any smart weapon is made
even more capable, there can be no assurance that any
such intelligent device cannot become "self-aware" of
its intended purpose, and intervene somehow. This is
kind of like 'Hal' and the Clarke dilemma in 2001.

For instance, we know that our own Military, long
before teraflop computing became affordable, trained
dogs and sea-mammals to kill the enemy. Dolphins have
been strapped with all kinds of weapons, but few were
ever sacrificed. 

If (under different circumstances) this intelligent
creature had been used by us in War, and had been
killed in significant numbers, would that kind of
"information" get back to other dolphins? ... or would
any "guilt" attach? Don't laugh yet.

Certainly there are reasons to suspect that dolphins
have the mentality necessary to feel remorse for their
actions or to anticipate their fate; but could enough
"contrarian" discretion emerge to overcome an extended
training regimen ?... IOW can they overcome what they
had been taught for a "higher" self-aware purpose?
Would they ever "turn" on the trainer?

I believe that there is more than a remote possibility
that this could happen; but I am pretty sure that the
"remorse" consideration never entered into whatever
decision was made at the Pentagon. 

For all we know, this kind of activity is still going
on in secret. Heck, maybe those pesky dolphins are the
nefarious ones who cut all those underwater
communications cables in the Mid-East ;-)

BTW- some sources claim that as many as eight cables
were cut that week! ... but other "experts" so the
spin goes, say that this occurs all the time. "Cable
cuts happen on average once every three days," one
expert reportedly said. "There are 25 large ships that
do nothing but fix cable cuts and bends..."  While any
severed cable is a "cut" in the parlance of telecom,
most often they're the result of cables rubbing
against sea floor rocks, eventually cutting through
the copper shielding and exposing the thin fiber
optics inside.

Riiiiight... well, once again, not sure who to
believe- 

...but isn't that exactly how the spin-doctors like to
leave things ?

Jones

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