--- In further reply to Robin van Spaandonk's reply to Thomas Malloy's message:
Yes, there is a "signature" for hydrino activity, and it is EUV radiation in particular spectra. EUV is not expected in electrolysis or combustion, nor is it evident visually like light photons (which would tend to mask it). Finding EUV requires a special photocell, placed in a cell closed to the reaction (using a "pinhole") as the radiation will not go through a "window" of any kind. It is more like gamma radiation, but less penetrating. Extreme ultraviolet light is not seen in chemical processes; and if it occurs robustly, then that would be an excellent clue. In a high voltage plasma, EUV can be be expected without hydrinos, but there are specific spectra which are multiples of 27.2 eV which are the important clue, according to Mills' CQM theory; and these energy levels should stand out very clearly in hydrino situations. However, since the hydrino (deuterino) is one of the possible explanations for LENR itself, or more like a partial explanation (in the sense that it could be precursor-to an actual nuclear reaction) then it would not necessarily differentiate the two classes, which I believe was the intent of the original question. Which brings up one very important point which I have never seen addressed before wrt deuterium fusion. We (including the mainstream) know that the Farnsworth Fusor produces lots of neutrons at a fraction of the normal threshold energy for spallation or fusion, even though it is far from breakeven. ...so one wonders if EUV is present there (Fusor), and to what degree, and in what energy levels ? Mills, or BLP, or the CQM theory, could take a giant step towards mainstream credibility, possibly exceeding *everything* he has done in his prior 19 years of experiment (and by a very wide margin in the eyes of the mainstream) IF he were to look for, and to find his signature spectra of EUV coming from an operating Fusor. This would be HUGE, and IMHO it would open the floodgates of funding. At his burn-rate, this could be important. He must know this, however, and possibly has tried and failed to find EUV there... Which does not disprove anything. But if he has not looked for it, I would urge Mike or anyone "who has his ear" to strongly encourage him to do so... ... (even though he in well-known to have this strong and irrational aversion to LENR, of the P&F variety)... but, it should be noted that the Fusor is technically NOT a facet of LENR, but has heretofore been assumed to be a fact of hot fusion (even if called "warm" fusion). Now is the time, Randy ... "saddle up" ... ever since the SPAWAR results, even though they are not unquestioned, they have raised the credibility level of LENR above the hydrino, in everyone's eyes (mainstream of physics) at least those who will take a dispassionate look at the evidence for both, and it is time for a competitive response ... Jones ("saddle up" is a bit of trivia for you cinema fans, who may have seen the "Michael Clayton" movie and not grasped the metaphor of the tree horses) > Hi, > Well,let me put it another way. if someone were > attempting to get an LENR reactor to work. Let's > suppose that it worked, measurable anomalous heat out > put. Then they built a hydrino generator and bubbled > the out put gas into the LENR cell, and it worked > measurably better. How would that be for "proof"? > I would say that it would be very interesting, but > would want to know a few more > details.