In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:14:52 -0700 (PDT):
Hi Jones,
[snip]
Going by the old paper I have ("Anomalous Argon-Hydrogen-Strontium Discharge"),
we are both wrong, though you are closer to truth than I am. Apparently the
light is transmitted by an 8 mm quartz rod (presumably the 8mm refers to the
diameter), then sent through a condensing collimator, then into an optical fibre
which transmits it to a spectrometer. That gives me the impression that the
"hole" size we are looking at is 8 mm in diameter, and the closest end of the
rod appears to be about 4-7 cm from the center of the cell.
However, we are also both making the assumption that the power output is
continuous. Some of the figures in the paper give the strong impression that
that is far from the truth.
>-- Robin
>
>> Assuming 10%, then the light output would be 2.46 W
>> for pure H2 (taken from the table). To get a flux of
>2 microwatt/cm^2, one would have to measure at a
>> distance of about 3 m from the reaction.
>
>Not at all.
>
>You are apparently assuming the full cm^2 of the chip
>is being irradiated. I am assuming, in contrast, but
>taken from a previous diagram of a Mills' experiment,
>that a pinhole detector was used.
>
>Big difference - as a sub mm aperture is irradiating
>the much larger detector chip - thus the low microwatt
>figure.
>
>Note: to protect these kinds of detector chips in a
>plasma reactor, a pinhole is customarily used. CAVEAT:
>I do NOT know that to be the case for certain here,
>but the only experiments (which I remember seeing)
>were set up exactly this way - with a pinhole and
>photocell.
>
>This point begs to be clarified, of course, since with
>a pinhole - the actual radiation flux at the spherical
>radius of the aperture, can a multiple of 10^5 or up
>from the actual area of the intercepted radiation
>through the hole.
>
>IOW - if it was not a pinhole detector then nothing
>that Mills has written, in terms of his past COP
>claims, makes much sense - Nor does my crude analysis
>of it.
>
>More later,
>
>Jones
>
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
