On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:27 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Thu, 4 Sep 2008 05:55:59
-0800:
Hi,
[snip]
If black holes can carry charge, then it may be feasible for them to
form negative "atoms" in which they are the nuclei, and ordinary
atomic nuclei act like electrons.
[snip]
What is to stop the accelerated positive nuclei from emitting EM
radiation and
spiraling into the BH?
This is a very interesting point. A stable BH atom with a neutral
BH would indeed require a neutral satellite. However, if the black
hole can exhibit charge, i.e. if virtual photons carry no mass
charge (while real photos do) as in my gravimagnetics theory, then
the same fields exist as for an ordinary atom, and radiation should
be suppressed. There should exist quantized stable non-radiating
orbits for charged black holes.
Since the BH has a huge gravitational force associated with it,
there is no need
for either it, or the orbiting matter, to be charged. Other matter
will happily
orbit it (in the conventional sense), just in very tiny orbits.
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Yes, that's what I meant by the following sentence:
On Sep 4, 2008, at 5:55 AM, Horace Heffner wrote:
Even purely by the force of gravity and by quantum constraints, a
gravitation force atom might be feasible having nuclei for satellites.
However, a microscopic black hole does not necessarily have a "hugh
gravitational field" associated with it at atomic radius distances. A
black hole can be created using *any* amount of mass, provided the
mass is stuffed within the Swartzchild radius for that mass. The
mass required for a stable gravitationally based atom would be very
large.
Fe = Cc * (q^2/r^2)
Fg = G * (m1 * mp) / r^2
The force between two charges at 1 Ang is 2.31x10^-8 N.
Using equation 2 above:
(r^2 * Fg)/ (G * mp) = m1
m1 = 2.07x10^9 kg
So, to have a 1 angstrom orbital radius, say for a neutron orbiting
the black hole, it would have to weigh over a billion kg.
I think BH atoms from the Supercollider would have to be charge
oriented only, unless they really took on some big mass quickly.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
