Hi Michel 

> Ed's sensible objection is that IF your battery is empty -- which BTW is most
probably the case otherwise you wouldn't be running on the genset.

Whoa - Michel, that is the totally wrong assumption. The genset cuts-in much 
sooner; the battery cannot be allowed to ever go empty as this is harmful ! But 
unlike the Prius (where the motor kicks in for every hill) the Volt genset only 
kicks in when the battery array gets to a certain level - say 50% depletion. I 
do not know the actual number but it is much higher than you are thinking.

IOW Long before the batteries are completely empty, the genset comes on and 
stays on at **full speed** until they are brought back up to a preset value of 
charge by an onboard computer. The arrangement is designed so that the *average 
requirement* of power is met by the genset (or more), instead of the peak 
requirement.  Of course, there could be a situation where the driver wants to 
draw more than the average for a very long time-- say to go 100 mph, well over 
the speed limit in most places - and in that case, the Volt (or an optimized 
volt-clone) is not a good choice. You cannot please everyone.

In a normal ICE you may need 100 kW of peak power to go from say 0-60 in ten 
seconds. With the Volt you can do this repeatedly, since you electric motor is 
sufficient, even though your genset is too small by half. And the genset will 
kick in and recharge long before the batteries are drained.

OK - Can we go from there to needing significantly less than half of the peak 
power requirement? That is an interesting question because the hypothesis that 
you can do it technically might not give the driver the "feel" that he needs 
for a surge of on demand power.

IOW the issue would be this. If the average power required for all driving is 
35 kW over an extended period - for a light car of say 3000 pounds; (and that 
figure has been published)  - yet - the peak required for hills and passing is 
100 kW - then can you get by with the very minimum in your genset, or do you 
need to "pad that" up to 53 kW, as the Volt is doing?

> Isn't he right to conclude that the genset must be able to provide the full
power, as it does on the GM Volt?

No, not "full power" if by that you mean "peak" .... or should I say: Yes and 
no. He is correct to conclude that the genset must be able to provide the 
average power but not the peak power. 

However, from there-on your (not Ed's) second assumption that the GM Volt needs 
53 kW for "full power" is incorrect. It needs far more than that for peak 
power, and less than that number for average power. Get it?

AFAIK from published figures, a car in this weight range and air resistance 
etc. needs much less than 53 kW for average power and close to 35 Kw, which is 
the number chosen because this has appeared in print -- but please -- feel free 
to correct that number, if you can find an actual test or evidence which proves 
it to be wrong.

Jones

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