Steve,

as moderator of the CMNS mailing list you force me to reply. You write:

The CMNS list secrecy rule is a constraint on my personal civil liberties as well as an obstruction of free press.

"Secrecy rule": There is a fundamental difference between secrecy and privacy. Secrecy is when someone who is obliged to inform does not do so. Privacy is a right of private persons to keep things private. CMNS is a private or semi-private mailing list.

The fact that you cannot freely use material from the CMNS list is a constraint on you civil liberties? Imagine this situation: You're at an ICCF and there are groups of people standing around engaged in conversation. Your demand is like demanding to be allowed to take notes of what people people say and to publish whatever you want in NET, without asking for permission.

Non-public mailing lists are an obstruction of free press? In Germany we have a code for different types of information:

1: You may use the given information naming the source.
2: You may use the given information without naming the source.
3: You may not use the given information.

You probably have something similar in the US. Information given on the CMNS list is under 3, with options of making information 2 or 1. I don't understand how this standard journalistic procedure can be an obstruction of the press.

As moderator of the CMNS mailing list I cannot help but take these accusations personally. I'm doing critical journalism for almost ten years now, accusing diverse people and organizations of secrecy and disinformation and demanding freedom of information rights in Germany. You are going for the wrong persons. Go for the real culprits, as you have often done in NET.

Best regards

Haiko Lietz
Moderator CMNS Mailing List

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