On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:27 PM, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the beginning G-d (Yahweh) created the heavens and the earth. Some time > later, his choir director, Lucifer, rebelled against him. You seem to equate Lucifer with Satan. This is an incorrect reference. In the KJV of the holly bibble there is but one reference to Lucifer: "Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" The more exact translation in the ESV: "How(Q) you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star,(R) son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low!" acknowledges the etymology of Lucifer as a Babylonian: "Lucifer O.E. Lucifer "Satan," also "morning star," from L. Lucifer "morning star," lit. "light-bringing," from lux (gen. lucis) + ferre "carry" (see infer). Belief that it was the proper name of Satan began with its used in Bible to translate Gk. Phosphoros, which translates Heb. Helel ben Shahar in Isaiah xiv.12 -- "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" [KJV] The verse was interpreted by Christians as a reference to "Satan," because of the mention of a fall from Heaven, even though it is literally a reference to the King of Babylon (cf. Isaiah xiv.4). Lucifer match "friction match" is from 1831." and probably relates to the first destruction of the Temple. Terry

