On Nov 7, 2008, at 11:46 PM, thomas malloy wrote:
Edmund Storms wrote:
I find the logic of this discussion odd. If, as Christians,
Muslims and Jews believe, there is but one God, then they are all
worshiping that one God no matter what they call it.
You're making the assumption that there is only one super human
entity desiring to be worshiped as God, Ed, and you know what
happens when you assume.
But Thomas, I'm not assuming anything. I'm only describing what the
religions say they believe. Are you saying that many Gods exist, only
one of which your religion worships?
If many Gods exist, as Hindus believe then we have a problem. In
any case, does anyone think that God would care if this puny,
ignorant life form we call human happens to worship in the "wrong"
way or misspells the name.
He cares because this is a purification process.
I have no idea what this means. My point was that a supreme being can
easily see through spelling God as G-d or not be distracted by a
variation in ritual if the intention is to have humans achieve higher
awareness.
. This benefit only occurs when we use this instruction to live a
better life, no matter what the instruction is called. So, why do
we humans keep doing the opposite?
Sin
I find that one man's sin is the expression of another man's self
interest. Also the definition of sin is different in the different
religions, some times bordering on the trivial. The word seems to be
a catch all to include everything the religion does want people to do.
Why do we keep insisting that our instruction is the only one that
counts? Why would any rational person think they have all the
answers about the nature of God?
It isn't from me, it's a literal interpretation of what the Bible
says. The only path for a fallen human to reconcile himself to a
holy G-d is through the system laid on in the Bible.
Don't you think that belief is an assumption? Don't you think God
would have updated his instruction manual by now? After all. its has
been over 2000 years and a lot has changed.
Ed
On Nov 6, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Horace Heffner wrote:
On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:49 PM, thomas malloy wrote:
Horace Heffner wrote:
On Nov 4, 2008, at 6:19 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
Pope urged to admit common ground
Their letter, A Common Word, cited passages from the Koran
which the scholars said showed that Christianity and Islam
worship the same God, and require their respective followers
to show each other particular friendship...
If it is the same Abraham it is the same God.
It takes a graduate school education in order to believe
something that stupid.
On the contrary, I don't even have a bachelor's degree. I merely
state the obvious, and not from some book or faith. Christians,
Jews, and Muslims worship the one God of Abraham. Since it is
the same Abraham it is logically necessarily that it is the same
God.
We worship different gods,
Repeating yourself is not a demonstration of rational thought.
we have different holy books, which have produced different
legal systems, which have resulted to two different civilizations.
A difference in holy books, legal systems and civilizations
merely demonstrates the degree to which religion is a product of
man and interpreted in differing ways by different people. These
things have nothing to do with whether the God of Abraham, which
Christians, Jews and Muslims worship, is necessarily the same God.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
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