Stephen
> AFAIK tapping the ZPE field of Dirac et al involves making use of particles > which appear spontaneously, or it involves making use of subtle effects like > the Casimir effect which are caused by the unseen presence of the Dirac > sea.... Magmos, SMOT, and related perpetual motion machines are not typically > set up to tap the ZPE field... Actually they probably do - or at least you are looking very superficially at the way they operate. Magmos probably do tap ZPE and indeed there are sensible arguments for that proposition. This short paper from Mark Goldes is a good start: http://www.magneticpowerinc.com/pdf/magnetic_power_gen.pdf In one paragraph, that argument can be stated as: In quantum mechanics it is well known that the electron and the nucleus act as a coupled system of oscillators. Thus, it can be concluded that ZPE is the sustaining energy source for all energy states of the atom, including the electron’s angular momentum. Since the macroscopic magnetic field of a permanent magnet is totally attributed to this characteristic of the electron, it can be said to be sustained by the quantum vacuum; the Zero Point Energy field. To the extent the Mills' hydrino gets energy from the electron’s angular momentum, if this is involved in CQM (even if nuclear charge is also involved) then it too could be related to ZPE (via either route). To the extent that LENR effect of any kind demand a redundant ground state or deflated orbitals in deuterium, then they do may involve ZPE at a formative stage - EVEN if the net gainful energy appears to be derived (later) from nuclear changes. In short, any and all forms of gainfulness that appear to violate CoE probably do have a definite and 'sine qua non' tie-in to ZPE. That statement is pretty potent (and controversial) but it bears repeating: Any and all forms of gainfulness (so called overunity) which appear to violate CoE are probably tied directly to ZPE at some level - and this includes LENR. Jones
