4. When you get down to it, no one owes anyone anything. It all cancels out. You highminded geeks owe the lowly greasemonkey and metal press operator just as much as he owes you. So shut up.
preach on brother! That opinion pisses me off a lot, Some of my friends that were able to go to a REAL college while I was stuck in community college had some serious ego issues about the lower classes. Sigh. as for the religion, hey, its being kept to one ot thread at the moment, and I find that when theres a single religion thread, it tends to reduce the extra crap tossed on in other threads. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Kyle Mcallister <kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Vortexians, left, right, center, up, down, backwards, > sideways, snakebit, and/or whatever > political/religious/etc. leanings you may have: > > A few points, directed in seemingly random directions > at no one party (all seem equally guilty here), but > maybe not so random? > > 1. Someone should go read the f---ing list rules > again, about what Vortex-L is for. Where's VortexB-L > when we need it? > 2. Where's Bill?!?! > 3. On 'pay the government well to do it for us'... > yes, that's fine. But do so with a large caliber and > large number of guns pointed at them, and tell them, > don't screw up. You want my taxes, you spend them > right. > 4. When you get down to it, no one owes anyone > anything. It all cancels out. You highminded geeks owe > the lowly greasemonkey and metal press operator just > as much as he owes you. So shut up. > 5. Think 4 is wrong? Try and live without a mechanic, > a truck route driver, a line stringer for the electric > company, etc., for a few days. You can't telecommute > everything. > 6. In progressing from a Kardaschev type 0 to a type I > civilization, energy expendature/generating capacity > must increase. To hell with efficiency and > conservation, let us make more, better, cleaner. Let's > do it so well, that no one needs worry about turning > the heat down. > 7. Barack Obama is not a god, and he will screw up. > Anyone would. Whether or not he makes good decisions > in the long run, no one knows yet. I hope he does; I > would be insane to hope he trashes the place. But we > don't know, and he has already done a large number of > stupid things, and made a lot of people mad. Before > you liberals say anything, consider this: your side is > the one that bitches about not hurting feelings. You > love feelgood. So stuff a sock in it. > 8. Republicans...now I turn to you. Why are so many of > you HOPING Obama et al trash the place? Wouldn't it > make sense to hope that, despite what it looks like so > far, they do something that helps PEOPLE, and not > highminders (on both sides) and stupid causes? > 9. The stimulus bill (soooooiiiieee!!! pigpigpig...) > should have been spent on energy. And no one should > disagree with it. If you do, then you lie in what you > post to this list. > 10. I do not give a damn about polar bears. I could > care less if they all die off. I would gladly kill > every single one of them to save a single human life, > and that includes everyone on this list, even those I > totally disagree with, with no exceptions. Human life > is something meaningful, and it is more important. If > you don't agree, I don't care. > 11. You on the religious right. You are guilty FAR > more than many others. You claim to speak from God's > perspective. May he hold you to that one day when you > face him. You say (not pointing fingers, almost all > Christians say this) that works are filthy rags before > the Lord. Have you ever read a book called James? > Faith alone without works is /dead/. > 12. I am not done with you. Let's sit around and wait > for judgement, because there's nothing we can do about > it. The human race is more valuable than that. And you > know what? It forbids such actions in...oh...that book > called the 'Bible.' Maybe some Christians have heard > of it? You are supposed to be prepared, in CASE the > 'day' comes, but live as if it weren't for a thousand > years. That's pretty damned ironclad. And from what I > can tell, that means, get off your lazy asses and MAKE > A DIFFERENCE. > 13. Yes...laziness. It is very pervasive these days, > ain't it? Christians seem to be among the lazy, > liberals, conservatives, and so on. Hell, I can't > really find a boundary. What group isn't lazy? Oh, > right, very few individuals are. Talk is cheap. Go do > something. > 14. Worshipping Godman Obama will get you about as > much result as worshipping anything else, in my > experience: not a whole lot. > 15. I am...spiritual. I am /sort of/ Christian. But > oddly enough, I find better company these days with > agnostics. They remember how to ask some questions. To > be honest, I don't know what I believe, but I know > this: God means, GO DO GOOD. The Christian church > should learn this. > 16. Freedom should never be exchanged for increased > safety. Else, what's a life for? Or are you one of > those people who thinks life isn't worth anything? > Come, let us put you in a situation where your life > will end quickly. Let us see how truly valuable your > life is to you. Whether it is instinct born of > evolution to survive and multiply, or whether it is > the great designer's will that you /have something to > do/, you will strive to live. And live you should. > 17. Having money and 'stuff' doesn't mean you are > free. I have very little money, but I have seen and > done things that not many have done. I have tried to > live by Heinlein's advice: specialization is for > insects. I am not an insect. > 18. /Why are you here?/ We were supposed to, as a > friend of mine so aptly put it, 'stick it to the man' > and find ways to generate limitless amounts of power. > If you can believe that the 2 and 4 year term gods > we've elected can do so much HOPE CHANGE > HAPPYHORSESHIT, then you can believe in what this > group is for. Or are you no substance? > 19. Never discount amateurs. A pro is an amateur with > a higher pay grade and plenty of indoctrination. > 20. Some have asked my political party. None. I am a > human, who wants to see his fellow man free, and able > to live happily. And not 'happy' as in what 'the > state' says is happy. > 21. A boss is nothing without workers. A worker is > nothing without a boss. Stop hating each other. > 22. No one person knows it all. But we should strive > to. Sometimes this requires seeing things from a > different point of view. > > Or is Vortex-L's day done? > > Can we stop this garbage that is the real thing > tearing us (the whole nation) apart, and get back to > science? If in the end we fail, we have the dignity of > saying, "We did something. We did try." > > THAT means something. > > I know many of you think I am trolling. I am not. I > mean what I say, and I truly do care. Which is why I > hate seeing this happen to what was once a great place > to discuss science. > > I hope that you at least think about this. But I > believe this will be the last chance I give this > place. I am too busy with work, family, research, and > am fast becoming too sick to handle the stress. If we > can go back to the old days, and stick to the science, > I will post more, and will contribute more. But if you > will not do this, I will go to greener pastures, and > try to help with what I can there. I am not praising > myself or saying how valuable I am. I am simply > saying, this is the crossroads, guys. Grow up, learn > to accept each other, and we can make this place what > it used to be. Or tantrum back and forth like babies. > > --Kyle > > > > >
