About a month ago, the thread below drew little interest here: primarily
since "grain fuels" have gotten a bad rap from both sides of the aisle - so
it is no surprise that environmentalists tend to be misled (by Big-Oil spin)
about the importance of next-gen ethanol in our collective energy future.
This alternative fuel is also known as "advanced cellulosic hydrous
ethanol". It is too bad that it shares the name and connotation, since it is
a different beast.

Let me say first of all, that there are several new technologies - which are
far better than this one - being totally carbon-free alternatives and on the
immediate horizon - and those are the real future of alternative energy . 

BUT even if they arrive from the Lab this year, there will be only modest
effect on the larger economy for a decade. Algae-biodiesel is looking very
good as an alternative, but it is not the immediate savior that next-gen
ethanol can be .  since in the big picture, change is never as rapid as it
should be: paradigm shifts or mass production and new distribution channels
take time to  ramp up. 

Due to the fact that we already have a farm-to-pump infrastructure in place
now for corn ethanol, and the additions needed to use cellulose are not
severe, then it makes perfect sense that for the next 5-10 years- it will be
in the best interest of the USA to strongly encourage farm-grown but
non-food-based "advanced hydrous ethanol" PLUS to be used in hybrid autos.
That combination can cut CO2 emission by 75% and make the USA
self-sufficient in transportation fuel. Even partial progress towards that
pairing can eliminate the need for OPEC oil imports. It is the only way to
preserve the value of the dollar in international markets.

Perhaps I should emphasize that "cellulosic ethanol" or "advanced hydrous
ethanol" is the important new fuel - to distinguish the desirable 2nd Gen
variant from its immediate progenitor: which an undesirable fuel consisting
of blended gasoline with anhydrous (distilled) corn-based ethanol. What a
joke.  It almost seems that the bastardized fuel was invented by the
Big-Oil+OPEC Cartel for the express purpose of wanting to quash alternatives
to pure fossil fuel by making it inferior from the start, and then falsely
claiming that it reduces food availability. 

As it turns out, 100% of the protein of corn when fermented, is retained in
the Brewers yeast - which is the rich food byproduct of ethanol. In fact
there is a slight gain in available protein by going this route.

Anyway, here is the previous post (and as it turns out, the Chinese may not
have the upper hand here):

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg30640.html

Straight from Spud-country - some more and VERY important new R&D has
confirmed the premise, going back years that hydrous is special since it can
increase Carnot efficiency substantially. It really is a form of steam
conversion:

http://www.grainnet.com/article.php?ID=73529

. or. Is this just more moonshine  from tater-heads ?  - methinks, it is
right-on, Jack and another nail being hammered into the very large coffin
being constructed for the Big-Oil+OPEC Cartel. 

General Jack D. Ripper was right - it's all we need to protect our precious
bodily fluids  ;-)

Jones

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