The thing is, we are ALREADY doing something. If we want to do nothing, then we cut all manmade co2 sources instantly. doing SOMETHING is doing just what we are doing already.
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Jeff Fink <rev...@ptd.net> wrote: > It appears from your analysis that the earth has more self regulating > capability than most "experts" give it credit for. Further, it seems to me > that it will be better to observe and collect more data for a while instead > of rushing off to do something. Better to do nothing than to do the wrong > thing, especially if that wrong thing is massively expensive. Misguided, > high priced environmental repairs could collapse an already weakened world > economy. > > Jeff > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 12:40 PM > To: vortex > Subject: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear > > > > http://cordis.europa.eu/fetch?CALLER=EN_NEWS&ACTION=D&SESSION=&RCN=30717 > > New research from Switzerland and the UK reveals that, somewhat > paradoxically, plants absorb more carbon dioxide (CO2) when the > atmosphere is polluted than they do under cleaner skies. > > OK that is the finding. Now for the spin. > > You can imagine that the word coming from the oil-patch (bush-patch?) is > YES! just what we have been saying all along, and furthermore, now that know > that CO2 is a good thing for nature and for increasing the growth of > biomass, and that the cleaner the skies, the less nature can use CO2 - then > full speed ahead with maximum carbon but without any emission controls. > > However, that is 'spin' not logic. > > But - LOL - the same scientists who found the link, are trying to put a > totally different spin on it. Writing in the journal 'Nature', the > scientists warn that as air pollution levels continue to decline, "even > steeper greenhouse gas emissions cuts will be needed to stabilize the > climate." Huh? > > Whoa. You have to use your imagination to fathom how this double negative > makes sense, but their explanation is not so far-fetched and 'apologetic' as > it may at first seem: > > Plants rely on the sun to absorb CO2 from the atmosphere. Although > it seems counter-intuitive, plants actually absorb CO2 more efficiently > under hazy sunlight than they do under bright, direct sunlight. When > exposed to direct sunlight, the leaves at the top of the plant canopy > get more sunlight than they can use, and go into a defensive mode, while > leaves in the shade do not get enough. However, when clouds and minute > particles of pollution scatter the light, leaves lower down on the canopy > get comparatively more light than in the previous case. As a result, plants > absorb CO2 more effectively in diffuse light than in direct light. But the > ideal situation, from the biomass perspective is not necessarily to limit > CO2 > > Doh, reducing carbon emissions reduces the CO2 that plants need. And the > 'greenhouse' effect can now be appreciated to be due almost exclusively to > the other problems - methane and especially halogens. BUT- 'global dimming' > due to particulates, has reduced the net greenhouse effect in the recent > past, and if we eliminate particulates, that will increase the net > greenhouse effect. > > Confused yet? The scientists seem to be saying that you either must release > dirty CO2 or none at all. Well, that is not quite true - but it highlights > the huge grey area we are dealing with in these discussions. > > If you are not confused yet, IMHO - then you are not "thinking responsibly". > Al Gore is NOT thinking responsibly, NOR are his critics. > > Now for the good spin - the free-spin of valid alternatives. > > The is one and only one course of action that makes sense.Both camps are > misguided - and any rush to judgment is foolish; and yet there is one window > of opportunity that gets us where we need to be in ten years. That is- aside > from the obvious: which is adding solar and wind to the extent that we can > afford to buy those very high-priced solutions. > > The only neglected solution IMHO is to take all of the billion$$ that we > want and intend to throw at so-called CO2 sequestration, carbon credits, > carbon taxes, etc - and shift that into R&D for LENR, hydrino tech, ZPE > tech, including magnetic energy and even anti-gravity. These fringe-facets > are the ugly stepchild of scince because often they combine more art, > intuition, trial-and error, and fringe theory than "real' science permits. > But real scicence has failed us. Give the fringe a chance, and my intuition > tells me that success will be forthcoming. > > We simply do NOT know enough now to say that CO2 is the real culprit, nor > that reducing it is the complete answer; but everyone agrees that new energy > technology which does not depend on CO2, but promises to be one-fourth to > half the cost per kWhr delivered compared to solar or wind - that is the way > to go with the billions allocated for CO2 reduction (which will not help > anyway). > > So why are we waiting? Political inertia. > > We still do NOT have a Director of ARPA-E ! nor has any of that > all-important seed money for risky R&D gone out to people who can use it. > > IOW -take the ARPA-E philosophy - which is a great idea on paper but still > is not realized, due to foot-dragging and multiply it by all of the dollars > that would be wasted in CO2 sequestration, carbon credits and other > nonsense. Forget carbon. Carbon is not the enemy, or at least has not been > proved to be anywhere near the problem that the Gore-crew contend it to be. > > The real problem is bureaucratic inertia. Give the alternative energy camp > the funds, and we will deliver. > > I will now cede the soapbox to the Algore Alliance. > > Jones > > >
