This could be significant:

http://cleantechnica.com/2009/04/29/wind-turbine-output-boosted-30-by-breakt
hrough-design/#comment-71581

Another potential advance would be in converting the output of a windmill
into hydrogen in situ. 

There are losses, but this allows nighttime wind energy to be stored for
8-12 hours for use during peak demand.

Any thoughts on that? Wind energy is poised for a big boost under this
administration, and it would be very prudent to do it correctly, using the
very latest thinking and advances from other fields. It is clear to me that
many utilities - the people who market electrical power, consider that in a
free market, which this is NOT, "peak power" would be worth at least double,
and in some cases 400% more than nighttime power (which is when the wind
blows strongly in the Prairie States). This is why solar makes sense, since
even at $1 watt for the solar cell - the electricity costs 4-6 times more
than from a coal plant.

For instance:

If UHEWS becomes a reality (ultra high efficiency water-splitting) at what
level does it make sense to incorporate hydrogen generation into the
individual mill and dispense with electrical output altogether ?

IOW - let's say that all of the recent advances in water splitting, which
have been reported here recently - such as the Nocera anode half-cell
electrode material, etc - and everything else on the cutting edge can result
in a small gain say COP of 1.3 or so, based on the heat value of the H2 vs
the electrical input .

.. does it make sense to design the windmill, and the wind farm - from the
git-go to make only hydrogen, which is storable, even if not "easily
storable" and transportable via pipelines (if they are designed to avoid
embrittlement)? 

.. or do you need a higher COP than this to make the choice obvious?

Of course - going the other way - from having H2 readily available at the
population center, but going back electricity for the customer is lossy,
even with fuel cells, but H2 can be transported for long distance with the
only loss being pumping. How does that compare to line losses? Is there an
offset or advantage for pipeline transport there that makes H2 more
attractive if one develops a huge wind farm in say the Dakotas, where there
is ample wind ? 

Does anyone know if some percentage of H2 can be mixed with natural gas for
home use? I assume some must be tolerated as there is some in the gas wells
to being with.

Yes - I am sure all of this info is available from googling - but we have
many wind experts, aficionados, and tek-followers here amongst us, and I
would like to give one of them the "soap-box" and opportunity to expound on
how they see wind energy evolving, due to synergy with other R&D.

Jones

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