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From: Terry Blanton 

> About 92% [transmission and distribution eff]

Yes but looked at another way that is 8% loss which is on top of the  thermal 
efficiency of the plant, correct? IOW a coal plant operating at 40% thermal 
efficiency would suffer another 8% loss, compared to the original energy 
content of the coal. A coal plant cannot be turned off at night, so there are 
additional losses there. Plus the pollution.

Since we can burn hydrogen anywhere- and the pollution is nil, and since the 
efficiency of conversion is the same or higher - then it could possibly make 
lots of cent$$$ especially in the more northern parts of the country to pipe 
hydrogen, made from wind energy, to a small neighborhood "substation" sized 
unit, make your electricity there, at 40% efficiency and up - in a converted 
diesel - and use the waste heat for almost free hot water and home heating. 

Even small diesels running on hydrogen can reach over 40% thermal efficiency, 
do not suffer the transmission and distribution losses, can be shut off when 
not needed, and can provide very hot water to a local setting. Hot water 
represents up to 25% of the average family's energy use - not to mention 
winter-time heating.

http://www.greenoptimistic.com/2009/03/17/h2bvplus-bmw-hydrogen-engine/

That kind of co-generation comparison makes wind->H2 look more competitive, 
especially in certain geographical areas, no?

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