Harry 

>> MJ: More seriously, 36 hours is no big feat, a simple pendulum can run
>> much longer than that while swapping potential energy with kinetic
>> energy, just like magmos do.

> I think such a pendulum would have to swing higher and higher when it
> first starts to run for the comparison to be valid.


There are standard oscillators which do increase in frequency before
eventually fading.

Google: "Tibetan bowls" or "singing bowls". 

These are oscillators not gainful, yet some will "sing" for 20 minutes after
being struck once (reportedly) and will gain in pitch - thus the "singing".
That is surprising.

When I say "not gainful" I mean that they do decay over time, so they are
not self-sustaining. 

...but AFAIK - and as I have posted before on a number of occasions, over
the decades, no one has ever been able to do a *net* energy audit of a
strong natural oscillator, to compare the total P-in to total P-out.

IOW it is possible, if not likely - for many natural phenomenon to be
slightly OU, but nevertheless not self-sustaining, due to very slight
Casimir input at the molecular level, for instance.

Jones





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