>From Horace: > > http://www.worldnpa.org/php2/index.php? > > tab0=Scientists&tab1=Scientists&tab2=Display&id=1000
> The "Experiments" section is interesting. > > http://www.worldnpa.org/php2/index.php?tab0=Experiments > > especially the experiment: > > http://www.worldnpa.org/php2/index.php? > tab0=Experiments&tab1=Display&id=5 > > http://tinyurl.com/orcekf > > which states the (magnetic) force of attraction is larger than the > force of repulsion. This looks wrong to me, and disagrees with other > experimental results. Perhaps Kopernicky did not switch the two > magnets, and thus the two masses being suspended differ? In the > first experiment the top magnet is being suspended against gravity, > and in the second it is the bottom magnet. It is necessary to switch > the two if they don't have the same mass. > > There is also the possibility the magnets used are not uniformly > magnetized along their lengths. This could be tested by reversing > both polarities for the repulsion suspension test. > > Has anyone here done a similar experiment? > > I know a lot of free energy magnetic motor designs are based on this > principle, so looking at this as a first principle is important. > > It would be nice if the site had room for blog type discussion > regarding experiment entries. > > Best regards, > > Horace Heffner > http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ FWIW I have performed numerous FEMM Finite Element Method Magnetic simulations on PMs over the years. While FEMM runs are nothing more than computer simulations, what becomes obvious in the most basic sense is that two magnets of the same size and composition appear to display more attractive force than their respective repulsive force if one of the PMs is rotated 180 degrees so that like poles are facing each other while their respective distances are kept constant. Intuitively, and quite naturally I might add, one could easily come to the conclusion that this is an obvious display of an asymmetry in one of Nature's most basic forces. This would be a false assumption, however. If one graphs the Newton forces generated by carefully rotating one of the magnets one will eventually discover that the spatial area under the positive "hill" and the negative "valley" actually cancel each other out. Visually, you can see that while the "hill" indeed goes higher (greater attractive Newton force recorded) than the "valley" goes deeper (less repulsive Neutron force recorded), the area within the repulsive "valley" is spread out over a wider spatial area as graphed on a 2-D chart, thus balancing the books. I suspect many a naive researcher trying to discover and/or prove that they have uncovered an obvious asymmetry in magnetic forces apparently do not seem to take the time to generate a basic 2D timeline chart of these forces. I have sometimes speculated that the reason many have not done so is because some lack adequate training and/or education, or perhaps it's due to insufficient imagination, or perhaps there might actually exists an unconscious disquieting suspicion that if they were to do so their dreams of having discovered an actual OU in Nature's Forces would vanish. Fortunately, the quest to find what might eventually turn out to be legitimate asymmetries in magnetic forces continues. The smarter researchers are not so easily fooled by the above illustration. Perhaps a major discovery will eventually be detected from the use of more sophisticated (and more expensive) 3D FEMM simulations. I suspect some researchers may be researching subtle changes known to occur within the migratory patterns of magnetic forces (viscosity) as PMs rapidly pass each other. It is conceivable that the faster the dynamic changes occur (as PMs pass each other in the night) the more pronounced the viscosity characteristics might become. Is it conceivable that an asymmetry (or imbalance) could eventually be introduced by increasing the propensity of dynamic changes in viscosity within respective PMs, such as rapidly rotating a ROTOR assembly of PMs against a static STATOR PM assembly? I really don't know. Nevertheless, I personally perceive it as an intriguing possibility, one that should be adequately explored. Alas, I suspect there are few software programs in existence, particularly within the public domain, that are sufficiently sophisticated to take into account the quirky characteristics of magnetic viscosity, which I understand can vary significantly depending what kind of alloys are being used within the PMs. And then... who knows, there may be other unexpected discoveries not yet dreamed of. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

