>From Leak: > this should be on B guys.
Agreed. My apologies. Got carried away with my own pontifications. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:16 AM, OrionWorks<svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> From Lawrence de Bivort: >> >>> Some 'substitutes' for racial bigotries come readily to >>> mind: anti-Muslim (from evangelical Christians and current >>> American society); anti-Semitism (eg from the Nazis); >>> anti-Palestinians (from Israelis). Perhaps anti-Liberals? >> >> I have a perfect example of anti-Mulsim hatred disguised as Christian >> piety, retrieved from a private group list that I somehow managed to >> get "included" in. (Don't ask me how this came about!) I actually >> received the following "true" letter twice approximately a year apart, >> so it would seem that my original objections were ignored - or >> overruled. >> >> What absolutely astonished me was the incredible amount of arrogance >> and "scripting" the original author displayed in how he characterized >> the behavior of "the Imam". In just a couple of sentences it is >> alleged that the Christian minister was capable of reducing the Imam's >> religious ideology to shreds. That's one for the Christians, and zero >> for the Muslims! >> >> For those curious I recommend browsing www.snopes.com, for a run down >> on similar internet rumors, including the source of this viral letter >> that continues to circulate through the internet like a virulent case >> of Swine-flu: >> >> See >> http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp >> >> >> And now, for your entertainment, the so-called Christian letter of >> pious "enlightenment": >> >> ------------- >> >> Allah or Jesus? >> >> Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for >> maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training >> session there was a presentation by three speakers who represented the >> Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths who explained their >> belief systems. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam >> had to say. >> >> The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam complete >> with a video. After the presentations time was provided for questions >> and answers. When it was my turn I directed my question to the Imam >> and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that all >> of the Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy >> war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an >> infidel, which is a command to al Muslims, they are assured of a place >> in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an >> infidel?" >> >> There was no disagreement with my statements and without hesitation he >> replied, "non-believers!" >> >> I responded, "so, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers >> of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith >> so they can go to heaven. Is that correct?" >> >> The expression on his face changed from authority and command to that >> of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie >> jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes." >> >> I then said, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pop >> John Paul command all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Pat >> Robertson, or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order >> to go to heaven." >> >> The Imam was Speechless. >> >> I continue, "I also have a problem with being your friend when you and >> your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask >> you a question ... would you rather have your Allah who tell[s] you to >> kill me in order to go to heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you >> because I am going to heaven and wants you to be with me" >> >> You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. >> >> Chuck Colson once told me something that has sustained me for 20 years >> of prison ministry. He said to me, "Rick, remember that the truth wil >> prevail." >> >> And it will! >> >> ------------- >> >> >> Regards >> Steven Vincent Johnson >> www.OrionWorks.com >> www.zazzle.com/orionworks