OrionWorks wrote: > Regardless of whether one likes or dislikes interacting with trolls, >
Trolls have no interest in balanced discussion, nor in learning from the group discussion. Trolls push their agenda, and typically work actively to derail discussion which is "on topic" and well reasoned. Trolls have ruined (and I use the term advisedly, and, I think, accurately) the physics and math discussion groups on Usenet. Those groups are no longer reasonable places to post, read, or learn from. A few years ago, before the troll population ballooned, they were worthwhile forums. The foreign language versions of the Usenet science groups are still reasonable, but trolls have made severe inroads there as well, such that a major fraction of the discussions have been hijacked. We certainly do *NOT* need trolls on Vortex. I detest all trolls, and that includes Grok, who certainly gave every impression of actively working to destroy sensible discussion of science issues on Vortex. Trolls are not spammers, trolls are not scammers, trolls are not crackpots. Trolls are vandals: their goal is to break things. I find absolutely nothing appealing about that.

