----- Original Message ----- 
From: John Berry 
To: Nick Palmer 
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:vortex balls!


  Unfortunately,"Full many a rose is born to blush unseen,
  And waste its fragrance on the desert air "


On the subject of such, well I did just give a method that logically should 
create energy.


I am pretty sure that it can't be easily explained away within known laws of 
electrodynamics.
In other words I believe it could only fail if relativity is wrong.


There are not many ways to create energy that add up within the accepted model 
of physics, but this is one has no takers?
Personally I only find it to be a curiosity but only because I believe I have 
better.
If you don't believe my aether model then this should logically be the solution 
to the worlds energy problems.


Did I fail to explain the effect clearly enough...


This either disproves (special) relativity or creates energy in violation of 
the first law of thernodynamics.


Horace, you are reasonably well clued in on electrodynamics, no view on this?


On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Nick Palmer <[email protected]> wrote:

  Horace rather plaintively wrote:<<I've 
updated:http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/HullMotor.pdfto include the contents 
of my recent vortex posts, in the hope that,  unlike the last 6 years, maybe in 
the next 6 years someone will read  it and think, "Hey, the torque is indeed 
due to magnetic hysteresis.>>Unfortunately,"Full many a rose is born to blush 
unseen,
  And waste its fragrance on the desert air "

  Thomas Gray: Elegy in a country churchyardNick Palmer

  On the side of the Planet - and the people - because they're worth it 


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