The snip you provide seems irrelevant to the issue at hand. The space between conductive plates having certain wavelengths excluded therein is analogous to the space beyond the glass on the side opposed to the light source also having certain wavelengths excluded from it. A lower frequency portion of a spectrum is excluded in both cases. The analogy holds especially well with regards to the most relevant fact that in neither case is any frequency or energy "up-converted". Some frequencies from a broad spectrum are merely excluded in both cases. No frequencies are changed. Energy is only excluded, not transformed. The term "up-converted" then merely creates confusion. It draws an unnecessary cloak of complexity, or possibly just confusion, over something readily taught and understood in 8th grade science class.

The Casimir effect is not a force that interacts with the zero point field. It is a result of the action of the zero point field on matter, its isotropic nature, and its cubic energy distribution. It is also notable that the Casimir force does not require conductive surfaces to manifest, but that is a side issue, irrelevant in this case and certainly not an issue that breaks the analogy at hand.

If you have any credible reference that says zero point field frequency or energy is actually up-converted by or within Casimir cavities then will you please provide it?

A bit outside the scope of all this is the fact the zero point field may not exist at all. The Casimir force could just be the result of van der Walls forces, which are not thought by everyone to be a result of the zero point field. It is merely a hypothesis.

Lastly you again use the phrase "vacuum flux", but you have still not defined it. Flux of what in or from the vacuum? In fact, what do you mean by "flux"?

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/


On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:

Horace,
No, glass is not conductive and you don’t have the spacing between conductive plates required to create the quantum effect, The Casimir effect is one of the few forces besides normal gravity that interact with vacuum flux. I snipped blog correction below.

Snip from http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=14004 :
To build on the above premise for my own theory of how energy is extracted from these fractional state hydrogen atoms in a cavity or catalyst, I assume a relativistic solution for fractional quantum states inspired by Jan Naudts paper (5 August 2005). "On the hydrino state of the relativistic hydrogen atom". First however I must digress, The twin travelling near C would perceive the other twin and all physical properties back on earth as occurring at a rate of multiple seconds per second. Additionally Lorentz contraction of objects travelling at significant fractions of light speed causes the objects observed by the travelling twin to appear smaller (actually both twins would observe contraction as the effect is due to "distance" on the time axis). Fractional quantum state hydrogen exhibits increased reaction rate and contraction and is based on relativistic math suggesting something similar to an event horizon should be expected. The argument becomes whether a Casimir cavity can create "equivalence" where inside the cavity becomes a protected harbor that views outside the cavity just as we view an event horizon.

Best Regards
Fran
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hydrino represents Lorentz contraction in the opposite direction from event horizon

You would not say the red light is up-converted as it is passed through the filter?

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:46 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote:


Horace,
I feel like I am falling into a trap here but a blue filter restricts all wavelengths but blue.
Best Regards
Fran

If white light shines through a blue glass window how would you
describe the process and result?

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/



BTW below is the reference re
Recent work by Christian Beck at the University of London and Michael Mackey at McGill University may have resolved the 120 order of magnitude problem. In that case dark energy is nothing other than zero-point energy. Measurability of vacuum fluctuations and dark energy and Electromagnetic dark energy they propose that a phase transition occurs so that zero-point photons below a frequency of about 1.7 THz are gravitationally active whereas above that they are not.














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