Hi Jak,

            I made a fresh swamp gas salad !
http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/blog/7200-hydrino-only-contributes-energy
-when-diatomic-18408.html 

Fran

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From: Harbach Jak [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Hydrolysis/Neutrons & NewAtomModel [Vo]:S-Gas/OU-Zen Device

 

~hydrolysis concept more complete & NEUTRON-as-Mega-GLUON model
added~plus better edit in general//// sorry, I'm in a time-crunch
here.~;-)


 

FRAN bear with me:  My Ulterior Agenda is a 'New Atom Model' to be
seriously considered.  
 
Using a Hydrogen Atom new Model:  Consider that the configuration of the
H-Atom building block of ALL ATOMS to be along the lines of a
GYRO-SCOPE-kind've.  For argument's sake I'll say that the PROTON were a
Gyro-Centrific Toroidal-HyperCompaction of ('E'nergy/Atomic
E-force/Electro-plasmic-gravionic micro-singularity force ALL
INTERCHANGABLE CONCEPTS FOR THIS MODEL.  
 
I'm putting forth that the Proton centered Atom is a micro-singularity
tapped/wormholed into an inexhaustable Parallel Space Dark Energy
infinite E-Force Source.  And I've also call this the SUPER-MEMBRANE.
And s'theoretically' this 'Parallel SuperSpace/DarkSpace is the
parent-source and surrounding sustainer of our bubble universe and an
infinitude like us. And this is a SUPER-DYNAMIC E-FORCE FLUID DYNAMIC
FLOW SYSTEM whose Quantum Gravionic signature from the centre of protons
in dynamic opposition to the Gravionic Out-pull of surrounging PARENT
DARKSPACE upon our Bubble Universe's lower density E-Force membrane
sheet. Hense the explaination of EVERYTHING from 'SPOOKY ACTION A
DISTANCE' to the OUTWARD ACCELERATION of ALL MASS/GALAXIES etc. 
 
 Without this picture these things will be VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO
INTEGRATE into a cohesive Atomic/Nuclear/Astrophysical construct and
make ANY REAL PROGRESS.  But we will and wonders stand at our scientific
door-step that would beggar Jules Verne, Aldous Huxley, & H.G. Welles
combined.  
 
 
The core of our micro-singularity aka Gyro-Centrifically Hyper-Compacted
Proton Toroid is a singularity centred E-force/Inflow axis which creates
the EM-FIELD SHELL that I call the 'Quantum-Electron' AND is an
axial-perpendicular flow of lesser density Electro-Plasmic E-force.  And
this is what 'stabilizes' the Proton as a 'balanced singularity' not
black/not white, but a GRAY HOLE MICRO-SINGULARITY SYSTEM.  Added
inductant quantum-electron charge/flow effects  the proton by slightly
increasing the Quantum-Electon & thus 'whole atom charge' and thusly
'dialates' the proton turning it 'slightly whitish' which is even MORE
PROFOUND with conductors & superconductors which makes their OUTER
ELECTRON-SHELLS extremely SLIPPERY(quasi-isotopically-slightly-unstable)
while conducting electro-E-force current.
 
So the 'dialated up-forced proton singularity centres'  becomes a COMMON
EXPLANATION by degree of E-force added/stimulated  for all EM-PHENOMENA,
NUCLEAR PHENOMENA & ELECTRO-CHEMICAL PHENOMENA(stimulated to
micro-white-hole status=nuclear reactions)  AND gravionic phenomenon.
EXPANDED E-FORCE means a sped  up proton-toroid, which means a more
centrifically-compacted-densified whole atomic-field, which means the
INCREASED TOROIDALLY E-force VISCOSITY ACCUMULATIVE and COMPRESSIVE of
ADJACENT E-SHEET which is GRAVITY. Like the cotton candy machine model
INCREASED E-FORCE SPEED DENSITY= increased E-force viscosity PLUS
increased SPIN-TWIST which is what REALS-IN & compresses/warps the
adjacent E-force sheet of Space-Time.
 
RELATIVE PROTON-ELECTRON ATOMIC WEIGHT: That quantum-electron shell is
about a lesser density to the Proton @ approx.  quanta of (1E-force x
1/2 light speed)squared.  And for argument sake the Proton's
'weight/speed density' added to the quantum-electron makes up a
'modified Einstein formula for mass/energy'  @ (Mass=E-force x light
speed)squared.
 
Note:  I'm using a hypothetical '1E-force'  new-standard-quanta as the
Base Ambient Energy level of Interstellar Space-Time-Normal or the
'Bottom Base Energy Density of our Bubble Universe.'
 
CASE IN POINT:  STANDARD HYDROLYSIS by my reckoning functions resulting
from Quantum-Electron Flow (electricity) effecting the Electro-Valent
Shelled Proton(as a WHOLE SINGULARITY SYSTEM)  by amping up the
atomic-field to the point of EXPANDING THE DIALATION of the PROTON's
singularity centre. 
 
EVERY ATOMIC QUANTUM ELECTRON OUTER SHELL has the potential to hold
EXCESS Electro-Plasmic E-FORCE/aka/QUANTUM ELECTRON CHARGE and Molecules
thus FULL to EXCESS charged lend themselves TO parting themselves from
their MOLECULAR COMRADE ATOMS.
 
ABOVE HYDROGEN ATOMIC NUMBER NEUTRONS are 'not' MICRO-SINGULARITIES but
evidentiary of an UP-ENERGIED MOLECULAR MULTI-SINGULARITY CONSTRUCT that
CREATES/BUILDS NEUTRONS via the NOW UP-ENERGIED EXPANDED
PROTON-MICROSINGULARITIES ingresses excess ELECTRO-PLASMIC E-Force
austensibly BLED-IN from PARALLEL DARK SPACE via dialated
Proton-Singularity eyes.
 
AND NEUTRONS like ROLLER BEARINGS buffering/separating THE SYSTEM
FUNCTIONS of the ELECTRO-VALENT QUANTUM-ELECTRON SHELLS are THE BONDING
GLUE whose construct SPEED-DENSITY connects WITHOUT DESTABILIZING the
Atoms within Molecules. Basically the Neutron SHARES INTER-FLOW E-force
energy with the adjacent atoms  BUT WITHOUT INTERFERRING with their
INTERNAL SYSTEMIC INTEGRITY. 
 
OFCOURSE I'M STATING WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW in somewhat MODIFIED TERMS
that I obviously surmise to be more accurate a portrayal of what we know
to be prozaic chemistry/physics AS WELL AS to accurately define THE
EXOTIC PHENOMENON that conventional theory is virtually CLUELESS TO
EXPLAIN.
 
I see the the Atom as a Gyroscope like-toroidal flow system, using
somewhat the model of the Axial-EM/& VanAllenBelt flow fields of our
planet, (and singularity centred galaxies for that matter).  The
electro-valent onion-like shell system to larger atoms I see to follow
precisely the empirical Quantum-Electron count per-shell as conventional
chemistry.  I just describe 'electrons vs electron flow' somewhat
differently.  
 
FREE ELECTRON FLOW: Are more akin to our idea as light-wave/photon
function as a WAVICLE propertied affair that I would call HELICOID-WAVE
STRING and for ELECTRON FLOW that each HELICOID Wave-crest-to-crest also
constitutes a QUANTUM ELECTRON; and again @ electron
E-Force/speed-density @ (E-force x 1/2 lightspeed)squared.
 
THIS I CALL THE ATOMIC BASE DEFINITION for what is
SINGULARITY/TRANSDIMENSIONAL PHYSICS.  Thanx for playing along~JH~;-)
 



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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:43:31 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Swamp-Gass/OUZell &Griggs Multi-Cavitation Device
To: [email protected]




Jak,

            Fair enough, I'll settle for "the odd rapid Hydrogen-ization
of the H2O molecule MAYBE PARTIALLY ACCURATE but the 'reason' for it
would actually lead the Singularity Physics motif". I already admitted
that I couldn't see any electrolyte that would form conductive plates
out of the meniscus so your solution certainly trumps mine. I am not
familiar with the plasmonics you reference but have watched many of the
HV electrolysis on Youtube, Makes you wonder what would happen if Griggs
water hammer was designed to form the electrodes and do the HV
electrolysis at the same time?

Regards

Fran

 

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From: Harbach Jak [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 6:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Vo]:Swamp-Gass/OUZell &Griggs Multi-Cavitation Device

 

RE~Griggs Over-Unity Mass/Multiple Cavitation device~vs~THE OLD LAWS~
 

Re: Roarty response:  The knee-jerk prozaic(or closest to prozaic
straining at it we can get) explanation starts to appear a bit
"Swamp-Gassy" after a bit.
 
Yes the odd rapid Hydrogen-ization of the H2O molecule MAYBE PARTIALLY
ACCURATE but the 'reason' for it would actually lead the the Singularity
Physics motif that the Dialated Proton-Centre infusion of Energy would
MORE LIKELY tend to account for the "Plasmodic- Hydrolysis" cause of the
instantaneous separation of the Hydrogen/Oxygen bond in H2O and the
subsequent CHEMICAL RE-FIRING/or (Mico-FUSION?) of same.
?COOLISH/WARMISH FUSION ANYONE?
 
?HAVE WE TESTED THE GRIGGS DEVICE FOR RESIDUAL HELIUM YET?
 
 
* * * MAXIM:  When the OLD LAWS do NOT explain the EXOTIC then its
high-time the OLD LAWS be put on the museum shelf//? ARE WE COPS or ARE
WE SCIENTIESTS?~JH~
 

 

*FROM Zell: It ain't the friction what does it.  It's the cavitation.




*FROM Fran: [reply] more likely it is the same BLP / Haisch Moddel type
fractional hydrogen rearing its head again although I can't figure out
what would make the meniscus of the bubbles conductive to form Casimir
plates - I guess the gas would be HHO instead of just hydrogen.

Regards
Fran

 
JH-PISTOL SHRIMP/Cavitation:  Yea; remember the Pistol Shrimp and the
cavitation effect of a single tiny firing of his claw that produces a
milisecond of heat THE TEMPERATURE of the SUN's surface.
 
 
\\That's notable; especially if this MASS-CAVITATION TURBINE is
producing the same effect to the tune of multi-cavitative
firings-multiplied by multi-rpms.  IMPRESSIVE: & who'd've thought that
OU would be that basic?
 
Theory:  Sudden compressed/concentration of 'energetically
hyper-compressed/cavitated-plasmodic-mass' of Atom's-Protons(as
micro-singularities) causes them to toroidally-centrifically accelerate
& 'dialate-at-centre' to allow a sudden 'plasmodic-charge-surge' from
DarkSpace/DarkEnergy fields 'in the slighly whitish/gray-hole range' and
thus the sudden source of OU.
 
IF CONSERVATION of ENERGY discounts Parallel Dark Space & Protons as
micro-singularities; then it is merely an ARCHAIC NEWTONISM which is
merely SUPERFICIALLY DESCRIPTIVE but fundamentally INACCURATE and thusly
a flawed psuedo-truism of REDUNDANT & passe' VIEWS of PHYSICS.  3-pense
worth. . . .~JH~

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:10:56 -0700
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Griggs still at it?
To: [email protected]


 

> This 2006 video mentions Griggs and up to 70% overunity:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw&feature=related
> 
> and points to: "TSS - THE TOTAL FLUID SOLUTIONS COMPANY":
> 
> http://www.totalsep.com/sprmoreinfo.htm
> 
> which appears to be a currently active site.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Horace Heffner
> http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

 

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