Jed's right about what he is saying.  Carl Jung-wise the abduction bit has 
entered our collective-consciousness globally to saturation.  In short 
"International Abductee Religion" is upon us; more's the pity.

 

As 'most' religions usually have a grain of 'original truth;' though later 
distorted down through time to unrecognizability AS said 'truth;'  there is 
abduction actuality 'also' within this convoluted mess.

 

Betty & Barney hill were modern originals.  Their story was contemporaneously 
unique.  
Their vehicle showed hard artifactual evidence of having been 'molested' by 
some heavy-lifting technology that was 'not logically' likely to be out on a 
lonely highway in the wee hours of the night back in the 50's.

 

Aside from the now legendarily-common/typical abduction story/fantasy; the 
Hill's is one particularly interesting nugget by way of the fairly 
matter-of-fact testimony from Betty Hill.

 

Betty, rather soberly and straight-forwardly, asked her abductors to 'show' her 
where they came from.  They funny-gray-guys showed her a star-chart which later 
she was able to credibly reproduce.

 

CASE IN POINT:  That star system was NOT DISCOVERED by earth-bound astronomers 
for well OVER a DECADE AFTER Betty Hill diagramed it from memories

of her adventure with her husband Barney Hill;  (no not the Rubbles!~:-)

 

So although Jed Rothwell is absolutely correct with his psycho-social 
collective consciousness analysis of the matter in the main; let us not throw 
out the baby totally with the bath-water.

 

As J. Allen Hynek extremely thoroughly researched, tested , & documented; there 
is a small but definite percentage of this business that is the REAL 
THING(Spooky Action @ a Distance anybody?)

 

And there is much more within----Dark\        \<O>/        /Spaces-----than we 
might 'conveniently' &/or comfortably suppose. . . .~JH~:-) Cheers Y'all!

 

 
> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 11:46:23 -0400
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:More Abductions
> 
> 
> 
> Jed Rothwell wrote:
> > . . .
> >
> > That is the point I have been trying to make, which people here do not
> > seem to grasp. Folktales were known to everyone in society before
> > there was widespread literacy and later television. People everywhere
> > periodically have waking dreams, or dreams they confuse with reality,
> > and many people suffer from delusions. The content of these dreams and
> > delusions come entirely from their own minds, so they are
> > stereotypical and based on stories people hear from others (or see on
> > television these days). The stories are not original, because most
> > people are not imaginative. The stories all sound the same. There are
> > dozens of variations on the badger stories in Japan, all similar.
> > There are dozens of similar UFO abduction stories today because the
> > people who imagine it happened to them all heard the stories from
> > someone else.
> > . . .
> >
> > Nowadays there is no penalty for not believing in UFOs or Lazarus
> > rising from the dead. But people are nearly as ignorant as they were
> > in 1600 or 1800. Education has hardly budged the general level of
> > knowledge. A large fraction of the population does not know that the
> > earth circles the sun once a year or what causes seasons. Most
> > Americans do not believe in evolution of course, but they also have no
> > idea what a calorie is, or amperage and voltage. Japanese people are
> > only marginally more educated in my experience, based on attending
> > college there and reading their mass media. Most people are incurious
> > and seldom bother to learn things that are of no immediate use to them.
> >
> > So it is not a bit surprising that belief in alien abductions is
> > widespread, and it follows from this that many people believe that
> > they themselves were abducted.
> 
> That which surprised me about the story wasn't that she apparently
> believed herself abducted by aliens.
> 
> It was that she "experienced" being taken to Venus and apparently found
> it completely acceptable that it was "very green". Coming from the wife
> of the prime minister of a nation which has spacefaring capabilities,
> that seems bizarre.
> 
> It has been known for decades, as absolute confirmed fact, that Venus
> isn't even close to "green"; they even teach it in at least some
> elementary schools in the United States.
> 

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