In reply to  Horace Heffner's message of Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:44:30 -0800:
Hi,
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>The specs state or imply the e6 uses about 18 kWh per 100 km, has a  
>range of 400 km, and can "quick charge" to 50 percent of capacity in  
>10 minutes.
>
>The e6 thus requires 72 kWh for a complete fill up.  At their fill  
>stations this would take at least 20 minutes plus queue time for a  
>fill up, given 50 percent of capacity charge in 10 minutes.  This  
>would be intolerable for many people.  

Perhaps, but even now many gas stations combine with a restaurant. People stop
for lunch or a snack while getting gas. This could be adapted to getting a
recharge while eating lunch. (car recharges when driver "recharges" ;)

>Charging stations would have  
>to have a lot more area than current filling stations to support the  
>same traffic.  The quick charging "premium" would have to be fairly  
>high for the charging stations to break even.
>
>Charging the full 72 kWh at the 120 V 10 A home outlet they suggest,  
>i.e. a 1.2 kW outlet, what they call a "normal charge", would take 60  
>hours, and to half capacity 30 hours - not too effective for a 5 day  
>a week commuter who travels over 200 miles a day, which is not  
>unusual in various California or New York City areas.

These vehicles may not be suited to everyone. However the average commute is
considerably less than that, so I think they would be suited to the majority.

>
>Using the biggest socket typically available in the US, a 240 V 50 A  
>socket, a 12 kWh socket, charging full capacity would take 6 hours,  
>which is feasible.  However, for a typical home with a 100 amp  
>service, this would take 50 percent of the home's current capacity  
>for one car and preclude use of home appliances like an electric  
>dryer or electric oven, which also take a similar socket, during the  
>charging period.  A family with two or three commuters and a 100 amp  
>service would likely require a major home capacity upgrade.  The  
>alternative is some home form of energy storing and quick charging  
>station.
>
>The ad conveniently ignores some of these implications. 

Most ads do. :) The cynic in me says that's what advertising executives are paid
for. 

>That is not  
>to say such a car would not have great utility for some people.  I am  
>glad to see that. However, the advertising appears at minimum to  
>create false expectations, and that should be fixed, for the sake of  
>potential investors and customers, and the company's own image.  It  
>taints an otherwise apparently good thing.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Horace Heffner
>http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
>
>
>
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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