?No Repulsion?-as relates to planetary-formation & geotectonic/electro-magnetic evolution: ********************************************************************
This is getting there: *The patent asserts that space charge in a tube is a quantum effect of virtual particles setting up a semi-stable cloud of charge. I wonder if any physicists agree?* ******************************************************************** *an alternative answer: Simply stated: Lighten bolts 'arise' from the ground into the outer atmosphere etc. and 'not' the other way around from the outer atmospheric EM-flux-line field to the ground. And the atmospheric ion-pathways align themselves in the 'flux-presence' of the (hard-strata)geotectonic charge/field build-up as a symptom/result-end of the equation and 'not' from the causal side of the charge-flow equation How/a contrasting view: Collective-Marco-charge as a 'unitary charge system:' Ion-clustered 'unit/unitary phenomenon' versus ions-particles acting as micro-units is the heart of this theory. Tubular(more or less) up-drafting via planetary-spin --->virtually-constantly-'calving' EM-gravionic-spin atmospheric vortices<----tends to form meteorlogical elevator vorticular up-shafts which Macro-ion whole-charge unified flow-system conduits are constantly created which act as charge-flow bridges of quantum-electron vorti-string flow. The extra turbulence of storm-fronts advances the process, but those fronts themselves are symtomatic of an 'over-charge' vorticular-charge-eddie occurring ready for discharge/release into the atmosphere/stratosphere. More later on that. *Updraft Vorticular Ion-Conduits for lightning bolt discharge/sprites/jets etc.: ?What are they bridging? The Planetary EM-Flux flow--->GeoTechtonic Mag-field Electro-plasmic flow goes south as in 'S'outh Magnetic pole. Meteorologic/atmospheric/spacial Magna-flux flow dominates all meteorologic-phenomenon but electro-magnetically it's----all flowing 'N'orth as in 'N' magnetic pole. Updraft vorticular ion-conduits create a 'short-circuiting' ion pathway acting as a 'whole-systems-mono-directional-charge superconductor of quantum-electro-plasmic wave-string flow.' The entire planet is much more than a 'large spinning-core-bar-magnet system;' it is also 'Tesla Toroid ZPE electro-plasma bleed-through' reactor. The planet's-'energetic core'- is receiving a constant influx of quantum-electro-plasma from the 'cross-spectrum/parallel-dimension' and at the global-centre axial-nexus of mass the planet is thusly *building atomic mass* and growing larger through said influx of parallel-spectrum super-dense electro-plasma. Some astute geologists have noted that 'Pangea' reassembled makes a perfectly spheroid; but much smaller earth. The above is how a new planet congealed from star-stuff 'evolves.' from smaller to larger. Yes the Planet is a 'Reactor' and radiates far more electro-plasma/gyro-gravionic energy that it absorbs from our parent star 'Sol.' The meteorologic endless toroidal-eddying atmospheric ion square-dance forms the the 'vorticular/tubal-conduit quantum-electro-plasma charge conductor bridges' for the constant earth-'over charge'---->growing and electro-magnetically----powering<---the planet from it' centre-outward. Thus the earth's geo-tectonic 'S'outh charge flow tends to short-discharge across the atmospheric-ion-vortis whole-charge pathways into the Atmospheric/spacial EM-flux 'N'orth charge flow. Separate ion-charge interaction at the micro-level is 'not' determinate and 'not' worth considering as a causel factor of lightening etc. *Simply stated: Lighten bolts 'arise' from the ground into the outer atmosphere etc. and 'not' the other way around from the outer atmospheric EM-flux-line field to the ground. And the atmospheric ion-pathways align themselves in the 'flux-presence' of the geotectonic charge/field build-up as a symptom/result-end of the equation and 'not' from the causal side of the charge-flow equation-JO- Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:39:43 -0700 From: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Vo]:Why No Repulsion? To: [email protected] I appreciate the answers but find that they generate more questions in the same direction. As of 1998, cloud electrification was still generally termed a mystery. It's difficult to see how small charges over large distances still cooperate to create a lightning bolt as a focused phenomena , either between clouds or sometimes repeating to ground without dissipating the generating cloud. Swirls of air that create the huge charge should push things apart and prevent concentration of charge.and the discharge of huge narrow currents. It's hard to overcome the image of putting a charge into a small cloud chamber filled with smoke or other particles and seeing it all vanish instantly. As for space charges in a vacuum tube, patent 6465965 makes interesting claims about electron screening. If the Edison effect cuts off all current, then it's hard to see how. A traffic jam can slow traffic down but need not stop it altogether. Electrons continuing to boil off should build up to resolve the current flow standoff from filament to plate. I will study the old low plate voltage tubes to see how this fits. Try i _________________________________________________________________ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx

