Jones, I believe you meant Robert Carroll, not Robert Forward.
--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jones Beene <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Vo]:New Energy Times News Flash: DoD Report Released To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 7:47 AM From: Horace Heffner "If rapid, explosive energy output can occur in one or several modes, could LENR serve as a new high-energy-density explosive?" It is ironic isn't it? CF dismissed by DOE and the patent office, and yet potentially important to DOD. However, I think the potential for concern is very real. Yup. Absolutely. Going back to Robert Forward we find the idea of “really cold fusion” … plus the realization that bosons could be involved in LENR in a higher temp range than with the Bose condensate (i.e. a “transient condensate” at ambient) … and the realization that the very high effective pressure inside a metal matrix is essentially the same effect as cryogenic confinement, in terms of limiting degrees of freedom – plus realizing that palladium-hydride is superconductive at low temperature … are any of these factors synergistic? … it very likely that near absolute zero the rate of reaction “could possibly” be poised to go into a rapid chain-reaction mode, if there is a stable BEC and extremely high loading. That is the scary part, especially if it were perfected by our enemies first and the first evidence we see of it is Tel Aviv being leveled, for instance. That scenario is likely one of many reasons why the Israelis have been deeply involved in the R&D, and we probably only see the tip of that “iceberg”. From time to time, there have been divergent opinions expressed here on whether or not this military aspect is actually already well-known to a few in the Pentagon, from a black project perhaps (assuming it is real) – and then that secret knowledge is what has translated down the food chain into what we see as the incredible level of “official neglect” given to the whole field since 1989 …? IIRC - Jed has led the chorus for the argument that goes something like this: our military bureaucracy is really “not that smart” and there is no high-level conspiracy to quash LENR – just basic ignorance. The bureaucrats could not keep it secret, in any event. I hope that argument turns out to be correct, but I suspect something more sinister. They cannot keep many secrets, but there are a few that could be worth protecting at extraordinary cost. Jones

