On 12/18/2009 03:01 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 09:39 AM 12/18/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 12/18/2009 08:46 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
So, you have a free energy system and want to tell the world. Do you
put an ad on CNN or Fox News? No, you choose Al Jazerra:
http://www.youtube.com/user/KaiBSteornForum#p/a/u/0/XcNwc-GhzIs
That is a very strange ad.
It consists almost entirely of quotes from highly respected sources
saying they're phony, and, at the end of the sequence, they quote
their own jury as saying there is no evidence of energy production.
No. That's not the end.
Sorry, I wasn't clear. Not the end of the ad, but the end of the
sequence of damning quotes. But the sequence of quotes takes up most of
the ad, and I found the inclusion of the quote from their own jury as
the last one in the sequence more than a little surprising. As it
happens the last slot is the most memorable with something like this,
because they go by so fast, so a lot of viewers will carry away the
message that the jury said no-dice; if they've ever heard of Steorn in
the past, that'll mean something to them.
That sequence is, as I also mentioned (equally unclearly, mea culpa),
followed by a quote from a philosopher, and then they close with the
single blurb, "Get Real, Get Orbo". (Up until the final screen, I was
actually wondering if this was a hatchet job done by somebody other than
Steorn.) But as to the "Get Real" thing, so what? The last screen is
the kind of garbage we all learn to filter out -- "Get Chevy" "Get a
Winston" "Get Fat, Drink Milk" -- just a meaningless image and an
assertion you should get one. It provides name recognition and nothing
else. The only content of the ad is in the quotes.
There's absolutely nothing positive in it -- the closest they come is
a quote from a philosopher about great truths starting as blasphemies
(which doesn't seem like it's ideally chosen for an Islamic audience,
but what do I know).
But that quote is exactly the point. They are painting themselves as
"blasphemous."
They'd like to be, no doubt. The quotes don't paint them as
blasphemous, though -- they paint them as dishonest failures. Not quite
the same thing!
And they are appealing to an audience which may have a
lot of extra cash lying about. They then say "Get Real. Get Orbo."
Reverse psychology carried to the Nth degree? It sure wouldn't
convince me to invest in them.
They aren't seeking your investment, they are seeking someone else's.
And those investors, at least the early ones, may indeed make
substantial profits. It looks like a Ponzi scheme to me, one designed to
be legal. Could any investor having seen this ad claim that Steorn
didn't disclose that the technology was "controversial"? "Blarney" is
not the strongest of it!
One thing's sure, they're very, very far from violating any truth in
advertising laws with that spot!
That's right. And what if the whole operation is like that, under the NDA?
You're suggesting it's a Ponzi scheme? So are they paying off early
investors? I wasn't aware of any evidence to that effect -- I was aware
of no evidence that they'd paid off *any* of their investors.
Companies trying to develop new technology don't typically pay
dividends. They don't pay off early investors, either, or anybody else,
until they finally hit their stride in the marketplace. So, it's hard
to see how it could be structured as a Ponzi scheme.
About 50 seconds into the news cast. They also had an ad on the web
page.
Ahem. Is this the real answer? Threaten the oil companies so they
will offer a big buyout? If so, they'd better be careful. Middle
east oil has friends in "high" places as the prince discovered in
"Syriana".
I doubt that there is any danger perceived by the oil companies. They
aren't stupid. If they think there is the remotest possibility that this
is real, they'll buy in to check it out. Like dropping a penny into a
beggar's hand, they won't even think about it.
Yeah, if it's real, watch out! But it isn't. No, if this were real, the
strategy to avoid eradication by the Men in Black would be very, very
different. You'd need to widely spread the technology, and quickly,
before the Men in Black realize that it might be real. As it is, the Men
in Black will look at this and see only business as usual, some con
artists stirring something up, nothing of interest there. Do you think
the Men in Black will be impressed with the phony demos?
To take down Steorn and crush any real technology there would be quite a
bit more expensive than buying in first. Buying in would be the
absolutely prudent thing for them to do, and they would do it through an
intermediary, it would be invisible. I'd say the Steorn campaign is the
strongest evidence that this thing isn't real, it's a device for
attracting attention and cash in legal payments, with the secret legally
protected. "The secret" isn't an over unity motor. It's a marketing
scheme, a device for making money, not energy.
