----- Original Message ----
> From: William Beaty <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 3:25:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Back EMF:  Sean may be right
> 
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
> 
> > We got energy out in B-1 which we didn't get out in A-1, yet we put the
> > same amount of electrical energy into the system in steps B1-B3 as we
> > did in steps A1-A3.  Where'd that energy come from?  This is the Steorn
> > Mystery.
> 
> Now we're on the same track.
> 
> As I said before, this sounds just like the uproar about the "Keelynet
> Firefly".  There was no FE-source in that device.  It just acted to
> uncouple the input drive pulse from the output pulsed load.  As a result,
> when you added a load, THE INPUT ENERGY DIDN'T INCREASE!  It's FE, it's
> FE!  Not.  Instead, with no load connected, the input energy would go into
> waste heat.  But with a load connected, the input energy drives the load
> instead of being wasted.  But unfortunately, output energy was still being
> supplied by the power supply, so it could *never* be higher than input.
> There was no mysterious energy present.  And if you tried to "close the
> loop" and make it self-acting, you'd always fail.
> 
> With the origional MRA device and with Firefly, after all the yelling died
> down, our conclusions ended up being something like this: "Don't waste
> time with possibly self-deceiving measurements.  Since your net output
> power is apparently so large, GO AND CLOSE THE LOOP.  You haven't bothered
> to try closing the loop?  Then you're just fooling yourself.  Please shut
> up and stop bothering everyone."

So for the orbo to be overunity it would have to produce less "waste" heat 
under NO loading, i.e. with the revolving magnets removed?

Harry


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