On Fri, 15 Jan 2010, Mark Iverson wrote:
If you armchair skeptics spent as much time reading the Steorn forum or
I would have said the same thing about Joe Newman, and about the MRA
device in 1995. And about the SMOT device a couple years later. And the
Russian water vortex heater. And the Gravity Capacitor.
But today I know that the first question is: is the device a total waste
of time? Does the device even exist? Before doing anything else, first
figure out the answer to that question. FE inventors have proved to be
fooling themselves time and again. Or sometimes proved to be outright
liars.
The MRA inventors seemed competent and honest. That they'd make a
beginners' mistake seemed out of the question. Fortunately in that
instance the inventors released all secrets. After a few weeks, their
mistake was discovered.
Was the enormous MRA controversy a waste of time?
YES. Man-years of wasted time, considering the number of people
involved. And their mistake was a trivial one: they thought their
true-RMS voltmeter was accurate to 1MHz. They were basing their FE claim
on measurements alone.
That's when the FE community of the time came up with the simple rule:
If your FE device puts out significant energy, then you should have no
trouble in closing the loop and building a self-acting device. If
you cannot, then something is terribly wrong.
Just like the Patent Office: if you claim to have a FE device, then you'd
better actually have an FE device. (To detect delusions and con men,
require that the FE device actually exists.)
Steorn is keeping secrets. That's very bad news. They're not publicly
revealing a self-acting device. That's worse news. THey're not even
showing a secret self-acting, scientist-convincing device to their NDA
group of researchers. That's worse. They're charging big bucks for "in
group" membership and paying themselves huge salaries. Worse again. And
they're giving confident replies for the long list of complaints people
have. That's something con-men always do: never letting believers'
confidence slip.
and speculating and accusing here
The 'accusation' is simple: Steorn has failed all tests to date.
They don't even have a controversial blurry video of a self-acting
closed-loop device. Why should anyone devote any time to a group who
behaves like they do?
The problem is that STEORN almost certainly another SMOT.
you just might have a different opinion. Sean is responding to
questions on the Steorn Forum, and many guys on the Steorn thread on
Overunity.com are making very good progress towards a replication.
Has anyone from Steorn been straight about whether they've build a
closed-loop self-acting device? (And I don't mean one with any
Joe Newman batteries included to keep things clouded.)
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