All the technical people are flabbergasted by the latest video.  We
are now convinced that it's all a joke.  The Irish do love a punch
line and that is just the phrase Sean has used.

Unfortunately, many people we call "the believers", are now suffering
from the Dunning-Kruger effect.  Some could go off the deep end and be
a threat to Steorn when they reveal the hoax, scam or whatever it is.

Me, I'm done with it.  Too much time wasted.

T

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On 01/20/2010 12:18 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
>> And it is unmitigated bovine scat.  Another obfuscation.
>>
>> The claim is that the inductance will change in a CHANGING MAGNETIC
>> FIELD not a steady state field.  The dynamic field of the approaching
>> rotor magnet induces a charge in the windings which will show on the
>> meter as a changing inductance.  All they have shown is that the
>> RESISTANCE of the coil does not change in the windings immersed in a
>> constant magnetic field.
>
> Really?  Perhaps I misread it.  What I thought he did was saturate the
> core via a static applied external field, which reduces its permeability
> and consequently the measured inductance of the coil.  So, he measured a
> "genuine" difference in inductance.
>
> And the windings are toroidal, so you won't get an induced charge on
> them from the approaching magnet, save as a consequence of core
> saturation and concomitant nonlinear behavior.
>
> As for the changing inductance in the changing external magnetic field,
> I don't think that happens while the power's on, because the core's
> being held in a saturated state by the field from the coil.
>
> All in all, the pieces which are apparently missing are still careful
> measurement (or calculation) of power in/out during coil turn on/turn
> off, and measurement of heat generated in the cores.
>
> But, come to think of it, I may be completely confused from A-Z about
> this.  (Yes, it does occur to me, occasionally, that I might be wrong...)
>
>
>
>>
>> They know damn good and well they are obfuscating.  Several of us have
>> tried to post comments on that video and none get approved.
>>
>> I am now convinced.  It's a scam.
>>
>> Terry
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Esa Ruoho <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYGSdUdONpw
>>> says "Addendum to our video "Steorn's Orbo Electromagnetic Interaction COP
>>> greater than 1""
>>>
>>> here's "a" transcript.. sorry if i made mistakes, i dont understand what
>>> "aii" is..
>>> ----
>>> What we are going to do today is to address some of the concern made after
>>> the last experiment, which is to know whether or not a change in the
>>> inductance of the coils due to the magnets on the rotors, induced a changed,
>>> in the current, through the coils.
>>>
>>> this is a coil, and we are measuring its inductance with this LCR meter so i
>>> am connecting two kelvin probes to it.
>>> and as you can read, on the LCR meter, its inductance is 306millihenry - now
>>> i'm going to apply a strong magnetic field to the coil and as you can see,
>>> its inductance has dropped to, about fourty microhenry.
>>> -- next scene --
>>> connecting the coil to a dc power supply.
>>>
>>> the yellow trace on the scope is the current, and the blue trace is the
>>> voltage across the coil, there's an offset on the current of 180 milliamps,
>>> so that we can zoom on the trace, and the scale is 5 milliamps per division,
>>> and the scale of the voltage is ten millivolts per division.
>>>
>>> and going to stop the oscilloscope, so we can read the values. there is
>>> 184milliamps and 14.25 millivolts across the coil. i'm applying a strong
>>> magnetic field to the coil, so i am changing the inductance of the coil.
>>> going to run… and stop the oscilloscope. now the values are 184.4milliamps
>>> and 14.26 millivolts.
>>>
>>> -- next scene --
>>> to summarize: the inductance of the coil before the application of the
>>> permanent magnet, is 306 millihenry, and after the application of a
>>> permanent magnet its 40 microhenry
>>>
>>> the energy stored in the inductor is half ali (??) squared
>>> which before the application of the permanent magnet gives us 5.18
>>> millijoules, and after the application of the permanent magnet, gives us
>>> 0.00068 millijoules, which is a variation of 99.9%.
>>>
>>> on the voltage and current, the voltage before the application of the PM is
>>> 14.25 millivolts, after application of PM it's 14.26 millivolts, which gives
>>> us a difference of 4.57 microvolts.
>>>
>>> on the current, the current before the application of PM is 184.1 milliamps,
>>> after application of PM it's 184.45 milliamps, gives us a difference of
>>> 355microamps.
>>>
>>> the variations in the voltage and current are insignificant and are within
>>> the rate of measurement accurancy and in no way can account for the
>>> significant change in the energy stored in the inductor.
>>>
>>>
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