As I stated on the Steorn forum I looked at Naudin's most recent video and see 
an OU gravitational-electrogmagnetic piston, assuming the energy needed to 
release the suspended magnets is or can be made -- with the right choice of 
materials --less than the gravitational potential energy of the suspended 
magnets.

Harry



----- Original Message ----
> From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 8:25:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:latest from Naudin on the Orbo
> 
> At 04:40 PM 2/9/2010, you wrote:
> > Lovely page!  Thanks, Harry!
> > 
> > JLN has done a really clear job of describing the effect, well enough
> > that it can be reproduced and fully analyzed, with, as far as I can see,
> > no hidden tricks.
> 
> Well, to a degree. The explanation is clear, I agree, and this is what the 
> "Orbo 
> effect" is on the face, it's what I came up with from slogging through the 
> Steorn videos....
> 
> There are two states: toriod de-energized. The permanent magnets are 
> attracted 
> by the ferrite core of the toroid, and that attraction does work accelerating 
> the coil.
> 
> Energized, the coil causes the ferrite core to be non-attractive to the 
> permanent magnets, so they can, having accelerated toward the core, sail on 
> past 
> the core if the timing is right.
> 
> So the big question is how much energy it takes to turn on and shut down the 
> toroid and thus the attractiveness of the core. If it can be done with lower 
> energy than the rotor picks up from the "free energy" of attraction, then, 
> indeed, it seems we'd have energy gain.
> 
> But measuring that turn-on and shutdown energy isn't particularly simple. 
> Those 
> are high-speed transients, and determining the energy in them simply by 
> watching 
> them on a scope display isn't going to cut it.
> 
> Remember, Sean has insisted that he needs the rapid response of the kind of 
> battery he is using, an ability to source large currents. Why? Obviously, 
> large 
> peak currents are needed!
> 
> I can't say I was disappointed by the promised February 1 demo, because I 
> didn't 
> expect better. The demo did not convince one of his own "replicators," and, 
> reading Sean carefully, that's quite deliberate. He does not want to explain 
> what is going on, he wants to *sell* that information. He was pretty explicit 
> that he wasn't going to give it away for free!
> 
> So what he is basically saying is "Trust me! Do I look like I'd lie to you?"
> 
> Yes, unfortunately, quite like that.
> 
> Is he lying? Well, I think he's slipped a few times and has lied. Mostly it 
> is 
> obfuscation, deliberately unclear and inconclusive.
> 
> Is he committing fraud? Probably not.
> 
> Is he sincere? Probably not. Not by now.



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