On Feb 12, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:

Horace Heffner wrote:

It came through nicely on my Mac. However, HTML in general, and graphics in particular, are not good in the archives. Graphics and some HTML or even rich text also do not show up properly at the online archives, www.mail-archive.com.

Ouch.


Happily, ascii graphics and blank line white space, which many Microsoft users don't get properly via plain text, show up nicely in the archives.

That's sorta hard to make. It there a program to convert tables into ascii graphics and blank spaces? It sounds like something I would have written in 1978.

- Jed


If you leave out the graphics and just print a table as rich text, that might work. If it does not come out in columns, due to a variable font, you might be able to fix that by selecting the text and converting it to a fixed font. Converting to a small pitch (as I did below) is sometimes useful for getting everything to show up without line wrap for some people, and some lists, but the pitch in www.mail-archive.com is fixed, as is the line width, so everyone sees line wrap there is you exceed the maximum. I'm not sure what the maximum line width is for www.mail-archive.com but the scale following will help tell that. If it is a spreadsheet important to you and that you might refer to at a later date you might just covert it to a pdf, put it on your web site, and provide the URL instead. Even better is to convert to modifiable HTML spreadsheet format, so people can plug in their own data to affect the totals, do projections, etc. Following is 10 pitch Courier, at least as I sent it anyway.

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......... 1.........2.........3.........4.........5.........6.........7.........8. ........9 123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012 345678901234567890
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[Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4
Jed Rothwell
Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:08:37 -0800

I just tried this with three messages which were probably too big. I think
40 KB is the limit.

Microsoft Word put this table out in HTML with enormous overhead.

This version is prepared with an HTML editor.

Britz database stats

Res+Res-Res0NoYearTotalPositiveNegativeUndecidedEvaluationPositive +
Undecided198920546832254681990248757641561161991130462918376419926522131 119 331993663110817391994422033162319952919361251996482410773119973219247231 998 331923922199923180141920001510014112001171120411200218920792003721042200 4640
024200562220420066401152007550005200862004220090000001007388238128253516


- Jed
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Re: [Vo]:Test message with tabular data 4
Jed Rothwell
Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:11:50 -0800

Ah. That worked. Let me try HTML from on-line article:

The following table shows just how much more people consume in a serving
today compared to people in the 50s:
*Serving Sizes Then and Now**Food or beverage**1950s**Expanded 2003
portion*French
fries 2.4 ounces up to 7.1 ouncesFountain soda 7.0 ounces 12 to 64
ouncesHamburger
patty 1.6 ounces up to 8.0 ouncesHamburger sandwich 3.9 ounces 4.4 to 12.6 ouncesMuffin 3.0 ounces 6.5 ouncesPasta serving 1.5 cups 3.0 cupsChocolate
bar 1 ounce 2.6 to 8 ounces
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Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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