On 03/17/2010 01:37 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:
> Listen carefully from 5:30 to 6:00.
> He says the 12 volt battery feeds the pulse generator
> and then he points to some disconnected clips and says the battery
> is not attached. What does he mean?
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I don't know.  Frankly, the Stiffler "incident" kind of soured me on
miraculous circuits which just happen to have a big power supply right
next to them.  If the battery has nothing to do with the effect, what's
it doing there?

And if there's a pulse generator involved, being driven by an external
power source, and there are big coils involved, then the possibility
that there's inductive coupling between input and output is always
present, whether the alligator clips are actually connected or are just
hanging in the air near by.

Get rid of the battery, get rid of the pulse generator, move it away,
turn it off.  Otherwise, it's almost surely an example of just one more
way to get power from point A to point B in a way that's sufficiently
confusing that we can't figure it out from the information given in the
video.


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>> From: Stephen A. Lawrence <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 11:23:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:add on: OU demonstrated ( with no secrets)
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>> But .... but ... he's driving it from a honkin' big 12 volt battery,
>>     
> looks 
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>> like a lead acid motorcycle battery or UPS battery.
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> So, it's *not* a self 
>   
>> runner, no matter what it says in the title.
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> He's got it charging a 
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>> couple of caps, up to 17 volts or so, above the
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> battery voltage.  He 
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>> makes a big deal of the fact that the caps are
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> above the battery 
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>> voltage.  But he's drawing the juice for the caps off
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> these big coils, 
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>> look like a thousand turns or so of fine wire.  So, of
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> course the output 
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>> voltage can go above the input voltage!  This is news?
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> This is, 
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>> like, not exactly exciting looking.  It's another case where
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> there 
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>> *might* be an anomaly there, somewhere, if you dug through the
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> circuit and 
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>> carefully measured the input power to 5 digits just like
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> he's measuring the 
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>> output *voltage* (but not power) ... or, more likely,
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> there might 
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>> not.
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> He says the battery can't be powering it.  So, great, unplug 
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>> the
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> battery, man, and let's put it to the test.
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> Don't think 
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>> so.....
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> On 03/16/2010 09:24 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
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>> video of Self Runner 
>> (a variation of the Solid state 
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>> generator)
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>> target=_blank >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sicsnUq_a4 
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>> thread 
>> for discussion of the above Self 
>> Runner
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>> target=_blank >http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8892
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>> add on: see reply 49 for circuit diagram.
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>> Harry
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