This was extensively discussed back a few months.

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/library/2010/2010KrivitS-ACS.pdf Slide 36 asks a question, "How Did ENEA Get “24 MeV”?

He should know the answer. They didn't, and they didn't claim to. They used the 24 MeV value as a convenient conversion factor to allow a single scale to be used to plot energy and helium. It was an assumption, not a claimed result. It does add a little meaning to the chart, allowing comparison of results to the 24 MeV figure, but that's all.

The ENEA results can be used as a minor part of the body of work that is used, overall, to establish what Storms calls 25 +/- 5 MeV as an actual value, but to question how they "got it" is completely silly. They *used it*. It is the value predicted if deuterium is the only fuel and helium is the only product (23.8 MeV), got any other really interesting conversion factors to use to plot energy and helium using the same scale?

Really. If someone knows Krivit and is trusted, they should quietly take him aside. It's embarassing.

As a result of this obsession, New Energy Times has gone down the tubes. Last year, Krivit spoke at the ACS Conference. This year, he was simply in the audience at the press conference, trying to use the question-and-answer session to make obscure points that I doubt anyone not familiar with his agenda understood. Marwan clearly was uncomfortable, Krivit has been his collaborator and co-editor for the ACS Sourcebook series. McKubre was cool and reserved, simply answering a literal question literally, and not allowing himself to be baited into a debate.

I think it's possible for Krivit to recover, but not without beginning to listen. Basic rule for reporters: listen, and listen carefully. Don't allow your own agenda to warp what you hear, and report what you hear accurately, true to source. When the "meaning" of your "story" outshadows the accurate reporting, something has gone dreadfully wrong.

A little more on this is with Slide 40. Krivit reports the fact somewhat correctly, but puts his own very silly conclusion as the headline:

Never Mind!
“24 MeV” is Meaningless

For 24 MeV to signify the precise mass-energy
deficit of D-D fusion, there must be
no other nuclear products in the system.
40
D+D .. 4He (<100 KeV) + Heat (~24
MeV) + No Other Nuclear Products

In other words, 24 MeV is not meaningless! If 24 MeV comes to be accurately measured, with the value being confirmed (it's not easy), there is an obvious inference: the reaction is one in which deuterium fuel is converted into helium, with no other products being expected in large quantities. However, Krivit is misleading, even in the "fact," because that conversion may not be simple d+d fusion, and the best known counter-hypothesis is Takahashi's Tetrahedral Symmetric Condensate theory, which isn't d+d fusion, but rather 4d fusion, resulting in Be-8 which then decays to two helium nuclei.

As well, Krivit converts the accurate "no other major products" -- not a rigid conclusion, because there might be other major products which produce the same Q value -- into the absolute "no other nuclear products." Thus creating an appearance of contradiction with transmutation results, a contradiction he tried to bring out in his press conference comments.

It's clear: in spite of years of following the field, in spite of all the discussion and work he's done, he does not understand the field and the implications. It's little short of tragic, in my view. I tried to warn him last year, he blew it off. It appears that many others have tried as well. New Energy Times has become little more than a personal blog, he lost his balance. Can it be recovered?

I hope so. Krivit was kind to me. I owe him this last effort to get through.

And now I notice this: Slide 45.

How Does Hagelstein Explain
Energetic Alphas?

Theoretical Speculations on “Upper Limits”:
“The alpha particle must be born with an
energy less than 20.3 KeV.”
(Pay no attention to Lipson et al. 2002 – 11-16 MeV alphas,
Oriani and Fisher, SPAWAR)
- Hagelstein, Peter L. (Communicated by Edmund Storms) "Constraints on Energetic
Particles in the Fleischmann–Pons Experiment,"Naturwissenschaften, DOI
10.1007/s00114-009-0644-4, Feb. 9, 2010

That's a very important paper, just published. Krivit has completely misunderstood it. This is a review of the theoretical considerations, and Hagelstein is reporting the result of his investigations. Look at the title: this paper isn't pushing some conclusion other than noting a very difficult problem, one that is fundamental to the history of the field. If his analysis is correct, nearly every proposed theory of cold fusion implies a prediction that is contrary to experimental result. They would predict energetic alphas at significantly higher levels and frequency than are actually found.

Hagelstein is writing about the basic reaction and the preponderance of results. He's not denying that some reaction branches would produce energetic alphas, neutrons, etc. He is saying that to match experimental results, the helium must be *normally* "born" with less than 20.3 KeV. I don't know the limits, i.e., how frequently it could happen that higher energy alphas were emitted.

Basically, Hagelstein is saying that we don't know what's going on.

Consider Oriani. We are talking about extremely low levels of radiation reported. Remember the original "dead graduate student" skeptical argument? It went, if deuterium fusion were taking place, the neutron radiation levels would have been so high that those working on the experiment would have died. Later, when helium was proposed and found to be the product, this same argument would have applied, except the radiation would presumably have been gamma radiation.

Hot alphas remain as a possibility, it might seem, but what Hagelstein has done is to analyze what would happen to these: it's standard nuclear physics. He is saying that if they were above the 20 KeV figure, we'd see more radiation and secondary effects than we do. This is very new work, and I'm looking forward to analysis of it by experts.

I need to go back and review Takahashi more carefully. My recollection was that the hot alphas expected would still have, as a minimum, roughly 90 KeV.

So, then, what happens if excited Be-8, bound to the crystalline structure, decays? Until it decays, it would only be hot in terms of nuclear excitation, not thermally, and it would be losing that energy rapidly to the lattice by photon emission (at levels probably not detectable, as far as what would escape). This could, in fact, be more like a standard Mossbauer effect, I'd not be surprised to see that the energy is absorbed by the lattice. Just maybe. A qualified physicist I'm not, I just get ideas. What would that mean, what would happen when the Be-8 symmetrically decays?


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