Jed wrote:

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I assume that if Blacklight Power has anything, it must be fundamentally the same as cold fusion. They don't want to hear that, but I am free to go on assuming it. McKubre agrees with me, by the way.

- Jed
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Mike McKubre should know better, and so should Jed. It is amusing that members of each camp should claim each other's territory; it illustrates how tightly one holds onto his pet ideas. LENR theorists try to shoehorn LENR phenomena into Quantum Mechanics [as if that gives respectabiltiy]. One knowledgeable author on Mills [Tom Stolper] devotes 80 pages of his book on assertions that LENR pheomena are "really" explained by Mills model of the H atom and hydrinos.

Here is Mills with set of reactions with H as a fuel which repeatedly prioduce 50kW energy bursts in an independant lab, with posted plans for building power plants. Outside labs have verified experiments producing the hydrino state as measured by NMR instruments. And, there is a theory claiming consistency with classical physics valid over 85 orders of magnitude.

Here is LENR, in disarray, with members fretting about conspiracies and suppression when the principle problem is absence of any repeatable large scale effect, as Mills has produced.

One can speculate that the fields must be connected at some deep level, and search for such a connection. But the experiments are vastly different.

However, there is a common point which I have cited to CMNS and Vo with no respose. I will cite it again. Mills has repeatedly stated that there exists a H-2H catalytic reaction in which two H atoms can induce the hyrino transition in a third H atom. Once created, the hydrino can catalyse other H atoms. The conditions under whch the reaction rate may be significant include the cathodes or LENR cells. The reaction is strongly exothermic, beyond ordinary chemistry. Such may produce "excess heat", but does not account for transmutation or 4He production. Notably, Mills has not claimed any connection with LENR 'excess heat'.

There are now seven licenses issued for BLP power plants. The clients range from small rural cooperatives to signficant corporations. One can be assured that the negotiations were not be onlyh by prospectus, but by direct visits, demonstrations, and outside consltants. As corporate commitments are involved, due diligence is also, as meaningful as anyh number of journal papers.

I note that Jed is carefully fence-sitting. I hope he as a pillow to make his perch comfortable.:-).

Mike Carrell


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