-----Original Message----- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > > Shanahan's cigarette-lighter explanation does not factor for the lack of excess heat when doing this with hydrogen.
> Well, at the risk of defending a "repulsive" argument, many experiments do show excess heat with hydrogen, including some of the Arata experiments. OK - I should have said "including Kitamura's version of the Arata experiments" http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/KitamuraAanomalouse.pdf At first read, I thought this was going to be an Arata replication, and little else.. Wrong. There is excess energy with both hydrogen and deuterium The important implications are in Table 1, the line entry begins with [H-PZ4#1]. In fact he gets more energy from hydrogen than from a few of the deuterium runs and ostensibly without LENR, without nuclear reactions, and without combustion. I suspect that it is even without Mills hydrino, but that is unclear. Although, I should add that the authors do not state the glaring implication of this in so many words. I do not think they could have missed this. That is why I called it an "alternative energy" paper instead of an LENR paper. The active modality for the first phase is surely ZPE. It also bolsters the view that deuterium gets most of its total gain in the second phase, but hydrogen gets none there. The second phase is nuclear. Jones
