Jed sez:

>> It would not surprise me if Krivit as he went about performing
>> his investigations in preparation for NET#34 may have found himself
>> on more than one occasion privately entertaining speculation as to
>> whether certain CF scientists might have lied about the content of
>> their data.

> He entertains this speculation publicly, not privately. As far as
> I know, he expresses no doubt about it, any more than Robert Park
> does. Ask him! He is not shy about speculating or accusing people.

I did ask him.

Have you personally asked him that question?


> I think he sincerely believes these people are lying. That being
> the case, there is nothing ethically wrong about him stating his
> opinion and no reason for him to hide or soft-pedal his views.
> (Not that he ever would.) By the same token, I am sure that
> someone at MIT fudged their data. I have never had any doubt 
> about it, from the moment I saw the graph, because the points
> have been manually moved and added. No computer could have
> generated that graph. I have never hesitated to say this. It is
> not terribly important because the results were probably not
> significant anyway, and it was a half-assed experiment.
> But it is fraud.

You are entitled to your opinion, just like I am, and everyone else within
the Vort Collective. I don't' claim my opinions are definitive. I only hope
to have shed additional light on an issue that in my view was in danger of
getting skewed beyond recognition: that Krivit has publicly and officially
accused certain CF scientists of lying - on paper, as published fact. Please
point me to any published article where Krivit has made such an official
accusation.

As for creative speculation Krivit may have shared with others, well... as
we all know speculative talk is cheap, isn't it. But of course this kind of
creative speculation can still get one into trouble. When it comes to the
activity of expressing personal thoughts amongst others learning the art of
knowing what to say, and what to keep close to one's vest is in my view a
learned skill. ...maybe also an acquired habit learned the school of hard
knocks. I hope Krivit is learning a few valuable lessons on that front.

> I think Krivit is incorrect, but he has a right to his opinion.
> I do not think he is causing much harm. I wouldn't worry about him.
> As I said he is "unhelpful" but no big deal.


I think I already covered this perception. See my original "treatise", last
two paragraphs.

Scribble, scribble, scribble..


Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks


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